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  • Stanfordian
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 9308

    Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
    Haitink will perhaps have been even less amused by the fact that the second movement (only) of his 'Emperor' with Perahia was played, with a fadeout in the middle of the transition to the finale. The second time I've heard this happen in recent weeks.
    Once wonders if they care!

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    • Kernow Malc
      Full Member
      • Oct 2018
      • 56

      I've stopped listening to the Breakfast show now, as I can't stand the constant trailers, repetitive corporate messages and other drivel (same goes for Essential Classics -and actually pretty much everything I used to listen to on Radio 3) can someone post here if there is a sudden improvement so I can go back?

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      • alycidon
        Full Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 459

        I could not agree more with you, malc.
        Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37589

          Originally posted by Kernow Malc View Post
          I've stopped listening to the Breakfast show now, as I can't stand the constant trailers, repetitive corporate messages and other drivel (same goes for Essential Classics -and actually pretty much everything I used to listen to on Radio 3) can someone post here if there is a sudden improvement so I can go back?
          I think the answer, unfortunately, is that many of the rest of us have given up on these programmes for the very reasons you give, KM; any comments I have to make are invariably comments on what others have described.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9141

            Originally posted by Kernow Malc View Post
            I've stopped listening to the Breakfast show now, as I can't stand the constant trailers, repetitive corporate messages and other drivel (same goes for Essential Classics -and actually pretty much everything I used to listen to on Radio 3) can someone post here if there is a sudden improvement so I can go back?
            I'm a morning schedule listener, but even so I don't think I'm alone in my dislike of these, with the mute switch being more frequently employed than I think is acceptable. Ironically, refugees from CFM aren't necessarily as tolerant of them as perhaps those in charge assume. I have read and heard many comments to the effect that it doesn't matter whether it's 'non-commercial' - hearing the same thing repeated several times in a few hours over several days has the same effect as endless PPI/insurance/whatever adverts.

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22114

              Originally posted by Kernow Malc View Post
              I've stopped listening to the Breakfast show now, as I can't stand the constant trailers, repetitive corporate messages and other drivel (same goes for Essential Classics -and actually pretty much everything I used to listen to on Radio 3) can someone post here if there is a sudden improvement so I can go back?
              You don’t actually say which part of the Duchy you are from or maybe you are a Cousin Jack living elasewhere, whichever - welcome to the boards!

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                Haitink will perhaps have been even less amused by the fact that the second movement (only) of his 'Emperor' with Perahia was played, with a fadeout in the middle of the transition to the finale. The second time I've heard this happen in recent weeks.
                I call them morons. They would call me a snob, but I really don’t care what morons think of me.

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                • Edgy 2
                  Guest
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 2035

                  Originally posted by Kernow Malc View Post
                  I've stopped listening to the Breakfast show now, as I can't stand the constant trailers, repetitive corporate messages and other drivel (same goes for Essential Classics -and actually pretty much everything I used to listen to on Radio 3) can someone post here if there is a sudden improvement so I can go back?
                  I can’t remember the last time I listened to Radio 3 pre noon and can’t reallly envisage going back,there’s more than enough stuff to listen to to fill the void.
                  “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26523

                    Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
                    I can’t remember the last time I listened to Radio 3 pre noon and can’t reallly envisage going back,there’s more than enough stuff to listen to to fill the void.
                    With you there, Edgy. The exception is that I download all the Martin Handley weekend breakfast programmes, and have them on (via the iPad) at odd moments, skipping through the odd trailer and the old news. I still think his programmes deliver a lot of interesting music, fine for 'kitchen listening'... The MH programmes are enough to last a week or two - I've yet to 'run out'
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • antongould
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8778

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      With you there, Edgy. The exception is that I download all the Martin Handley weekend breakfast programmes, and have them on (via the iPad) at odd moments, skipping through the odd trailer and the old news. I still think his programmes deliver a lot of interesting music, fine for 'kitchen listening'... The MH programmes are enough to last a week or two - I've yet to 'run out'
                      Hate to disagree with #MyLearnedFriend, and others, but Handley doesn’t impress me - I hear
                      Same trailers including pretty merciless plugging of his own appearances
                      Much the same musical selections
                      Use of the terrible “shout out”
                      Sickly interface with Sarah Walker

                      I prefer the Squire ......

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                      • oddoneout
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9141

                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        Hate to disagree with #MyLearnedFriend, and others, but Handley doesn’t impress me - I hear
                        Same trailers including pretty merciless plugging of his own appearances
                        Much the same musical selections
                        Use of the terrible “shout out”
                        Sickly interface with Sarah Walker

                        I prefer the Squire ......
                        I like MH's voice but it seems to me that the 'morning schedule virus' is creeping is beginning to affect his presenting(that originally came out as precenting - now there's a thought...). How much of that is contamination and how much is 'required' I don't know.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          I like MH's voice but it seems to me that the 'morning schedule virus' is creeping is beginning to affect his presenting(that originally came out as precenting - now there's a thought...). How much of that is contamination and how much is 'required' I don't know.
                          'House style', I would suspect.

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                          • underthecountertenor
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1584

                            Originally posted by antongould View Post
                            Hate to disagree with #MyLearnedFriend, and others, but Handley doesn’t impress me - I hear
                            Same trailers including pretty merciless plugging of his own appearances
                            Much the same musical selections
                            Use of the terrible “shout out”
                            Sickly interface with Sarah Walker

                            I prefer the Squire ......
                            I entirely agree.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26523

                              Originally posted by antongould View Post
                              Sickly interface with Sarah Walker
                              I'd agree with you on that. There is always the boon of the 'skip 20 seconds' button when listening on the iPad app. so if I'm within listening/tapping distance, it all gets eliminated.

                              I would differ about the musical selections - at least, in terms of what I remember from weekday programmes. My latest helping of Handley kedgeree was tasty enough for me:


                              William Walton
                              Scapino
                              Conductor: André Previn. Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra.

                              Thomas Arne
                              The Morning
                              Singer: Emma Kirkby. Ensemble: The Parley of Instruments. Conductor: Roy Goodman.

                              Ludwig van Beethoven
                              Piano Trio in C minor, Op 1 No 3 (4th mvt)
                              Ensemble: Hungarian Trio.

                              Kurt Weill
                              Das Berliner Requiem (extract)
                              Choir: Choeur de la Chapelle Royale de Paris. Singer: Alexandre Laiter. Singer: Peter Kooij. Ensemble: Ensemble Musique Oblique. Conductor: Philippe Herreweghe.

                              Roger Quilter
                              A Children's Overture Op. 17
                              Orchestra: BBC National Orchestra of Wales. Conductor: Rumon Gamba.


                              Not at all the sort of selection I recall from morning programmes in the recent (i.e. pre-retirement ) past - not a note of *uckaroo Holiday, for instance, or anything like it
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                Probably the wrong place to mention it, but Sarah Walker let herself down badly on Sunday reading out a (?) tweet from someone who'd rushed into the kitchen thinking his washing machine was malfunctioning, only to find it was the castanets in the Boccherini Fandango. Did she really find that funny? Who, amongst R3's grown-up listenership, does she imagine would have done?

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