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  • oddoneout
    Full Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 9150

    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
    Getting a wee bit concerned by the regular insistence that SK says she is playing 'my favourite this / that'.
    Why such personalisation / ownership?
    Might it not have exactly the opposite impact on including listeners i.e. 'well, mate it may be yours but it ain't mine, so hoppit!'
    Yes she very much "owns" the EC airtime doesn't she.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30254

      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      Getting a wee bit concerned by the regular insistence that SK says she is playing 'my favourite this / that'.
      Why such personalisation / ownership?
      Under Roger Wright this was encouraged. Before EC began, I think, I queried why there was so much emphasis on crediting the presenter when others* were unnamed, why a photo of the presenter rather than a performer? I mentioned the 'and my next choice for you' or 'and next I'm going to play' routine and he told me it was a good thing for the presenters to feel it was 'their' programme.

      *who remembers when the BBC would routinely name the leader, at least of BBC orchestras, when announcing programmes/performances? It happened on the radio - but when I was a child that would have been the Light Programme or Home Service (I wasn't 'privileged' [sic] enough to have known the Third Programme].
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22115

        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        Getting a wee bit concerned by the regular insistence that SK says she is playing 'my favourite this / that'.
        Why such personalisation / ownership?
        Might it not have exactly the opposite impact on including listeners i.e. 'well, mate it may be yours but it ain't mine, so hoppit!'
        Shouldn’t this be on the EC thread?

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        • kernelbogey
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5737

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          *who remembers when the BBC would routinely name the leader, at least of BBC orchestras, when announcing programmes/performances? It happened on the radio...
          Yes. Moi.

          I'm mildly concerned that on TTN, conductors are sometimes not credited, and occasionally no artists mentioned at all. I hope this is not a trend.

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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12962

            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            Shouldn’t this be on the EC thread?
            Maybe, BUT it's happening on many R3 music presentations i.e. presenters pretending that what we hear is THEIR fave / choice? Making it 'cosily personal from me to you' stuff.

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9150

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Under Roger Wright this was encouraged. Before EC began, I think, I queried why there was so much emphasis on crediting the presenter when others* were unnamed, why a photo of the presenter rather than a performer? I mentioned the 'and my next choice for you' or 'and next I'm going to play' routine and he told me it was a good thing for the presenters to feel it was 'their' programme.

              *who remembers when the BBC would routinely name the leader, at least of BBC orchestras, when announcing programmes/performances? It happened on the radio - but when I was a child that would have been the Light Programme or Home Service (I wasn't 'privileged' [sic] enough to have known the Third Programme].
              I remember it. The naming does still happen but not routinely - usually only in the context of a live performance when leader and conductor come on stage.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30254

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Shouldn’t this be on the EC thread?
                For some reason we're always getting the two programme threads mixed up.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • gurnemanz
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7382

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post

                  *who remembers when the BBC would routinely name the leader, at least of BBC orchestras, when announcing programmes/performances? It happened on the radio - but when I was a child that would have been the Light Programme or Home Service (I wasn't 'privileged' [sic] enough to have known the Third Programme].
                  Yes, now you mention. The names Felix Kok and Eli Goren come to mind. Leaders are also not usually named on CD covers. Chandos is an exception. I remember noting in Germany that, unlike in UK, the leader doesn't receive separate audience applause at the start of a live concert.

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22115

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    For some reason we're always getting the two programme threads mixed up.
                    Probably not seeing the join, after the 0855 baton change!

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9150

                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      Probably not seeing the join, after the 0855 baton change!
                      Easy done, even by those of us who actually listen to the morning schedule...
                      I think my #9421 response to the effect that SK's on EC was a bit too subtle.

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                      • antongould
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8780

                        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                        Easy done, even by those of us who actually listen to the morning schedule...
                        I think my #9421 response to the effect that SK's on EC was a bit too subtle.
                        I thought it was a bit bold oddoneout ........

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                        • oddoneout
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 9150

                          Originally posted by antongould View Post
                          I thought it was a bit bold oddoneout ........
                          Perhaps it needed more character(s)?

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                          • muzzer
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1190

                            The news is back at 7am. Is this from today? Apologies for not bothering to g***le. Does that mean the holidays have finished? ;)

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8416

                              Originally posted by muzzer View Post
                              The news is back at 7am. Is this from today? Apologies for not bothering to g***le. Does that mean the holidays have finished? ;)
                              Restrictions on the number of people allowed in BH at any one time have been eased, so R3 no longer has to share its news with other stations.

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9150

                                I must be missing something here, but I don't quite see why Prince Philip's death should mean the omission of the usual Sunday Breakfast Sounds of the Earth slot, particularly as much of today's schedule is otherwise back to normal. Does someone in management think it disrespectful to listen to Nature?

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