Prom 73: The Last Night, BBC SO / BBC SC / BBC Singers, Blue / Hough / Oramo

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  • jonfan
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 1422

    #31
    With Sir Stephen in the hall why not a meaty Brahms’ Concerto in the first half, then we’re ready to enjoy the lighter delicacies in the second?

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12232

      #32
      On TV, a little bit of Nicky Spence is going a long, long way. And if any classical artist is over-exposed these days then it's Anna Lapwood.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6736

        #33
        Originally posted by jonfan View Post
        With Sir Stephen in the hall why not a meaty Brahms’ Concerto in the first half, then we’re ready to enjoy the lighter delicacies in the second?
        the Saint-Saëns is thin fare isn’t it ?

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        • Darkbloom
          Full Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 706

          #34
          This sort of programme might have worked in the old days when audience members would wander in and out, but to sit there for an hour listening to all this stuff must get quite wearing after a while. I find that any programme that has more than four items in it ends up losing focus and the audience gets restless. It's a shame that they don't have enough faith in their audience to give them something a bit more substantial. It doesn't have to be Bruckner 8, but surely there is a happy medium to be found?

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          • Ein Heldenleben
            Full Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 6736

            #35
            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
            On TV, a little bit of Nicky Spence is going a long, long way. And if any classical artist is over-exposed these days then it's Anna Lapwood.
            He’s almost double her size …

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6736

              #36
              Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
              This sort of programme might have worked in the old days when audience members would wander in and out, but to sit there for an hour listening to all this stuff must get quite wearing after a while. I find that any programme that has more than four items in it ends up losing focus and the audience gets restless. It's a shame that they don't have enough faith in their audience to give them something a bit more substantial. It doesn't have to be Bruckner 8, but surely there is a happy medium to be found?
              No it has to be Bruckner 8 !

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              • LHC
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1555

                #37
                This is just dreadful. I've had enough, and will follow the BBC's suggestion from my childhood and switch off the TV and go and do something more interesting instead.
                "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12232

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
                  This sort of programme might have worked in the old days when audience members would wander in and out, but to sit there for an hour listening to all this stuff must get quite wearing after a while. I find that any programme that has more than four items in it ends up losing focus and the audience gets restless. It's a shame that they don't have enough faith in their audience to give them something a bit more substantial. It doesn't have to be Bruckner 8, but surely there is a happy medium to be found?
                  They did achieve this in the Last Night programmes of the early 1990s when the first half was a full sized concert in its own right so we had Ida Haendel and Hilary Hahn in substantial concertos or Bryn Terfel and Gwyneth Jones making major vocal contributions. You could go home well satisfied without bothering with the second half.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26521

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                    Duh.. I’ve worked out what’s going on with this Last Night look ahead - they’re filling the schedules with clips from this years season. It’s a free days broadcasting.*

                    *not forgetting the frequent reminders that all the concerts are live on radio 3 and are available until October 14th ion BBC Sounds : always the possibility that a Martian might land and be unaware.
                    I’ve just looked at the schedule of what I didn’t listen to today: what an awful day’s programming. I can only imagine the hour upon hour of forced ‘amazing’ / ‘fabulous’ / ‘fantastic’ bla bla bla

                    Happy I missed it!
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6736

                      #40
                      Reckon he worked in the Waldstein , Rage Over A Lost Penny , Flight of the Bumble Bee and La Valse into that encore . Comfortably the highlight of the first half.

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10877

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                        the Saint-Saëns is thin fare isn’t it ?
                        I wasn't giving the R3 coverage my full attention, but I'm pretty sure that it was announced with the implication that it was the whole concerto.

                        Utterly dispiriting first half in my not so humble opinion: far too many pieces with no apparent theme or reason for them to be part of the programme.
                        Mind you, that's R3 for you these days.

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                        • Prommer
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1258

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                          It’s not in the website running order but do they now work it into the seasongs ?
                          Think this is the way it's been done before...

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                          • Prommer
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1258

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                            No it has to be Bruckner 8 !
                            Yes! Conducted by Segerstam!

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                            • Prommer
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1258

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                              He’s almost double her size …
                              Triple!

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                              • Ein Heldenleben
                                Full Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 6736

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Prommer View Post

                                Yes! Conducted by Segerstam!
                                I was at that legendary concert. Why is it that that performance seemed shorter than this first half? *
                                The BBC SO played out of their skins that night.,,

                                * come to think of it I suspect it was actually shorter …

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