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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6983

    #61
    Good news. I'm not sure that I knew that she had had an aneurysm although I knew she had had psychological illness. I happened to be watching a re-run of a programme on BBC4 yesterday about a wide range of performers becoming old (a common and perhaps rather sinister 21st Century media theme) and there were the two versions by Joni of "Both Sides Now". The commentary was to the effect that it was only when she recorded the song several decades later that she realised the meaning of the words she had written. Again a perhaps, I think, but both versions really stood out in their ability to move emotionally. Talking about age, I was leaving the local farm shop the weekend before last with a bag of sausages and a pork chop in my hand and in walked Judi Dench, 81. Very brisk in the stride but no obvious sign of her recent tattoo. My father said "well hello, nice to see you" and she was very pleasant in the brief response. Alas, there wasn't enough time for my mother to tell her how her late husband had once apologised to her for his dog being in her way.

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    • johncorrigan
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      • Nov 2010
      • 10360

      #62
      Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
      Good news. I'm not sure that I knew that she had had an aneurysm although I knew she had had psychological illness. I happened to be watching a re-run of a programme on BBC4 yesterday about a wide range of performers becoming old (a common and perhaps rather sinister 21st Century media theme) and there were the two versions by Joni of "Both Sides Now". The commentary was to the effect that it was only when she recorded the song several decades later that she realised the meaning of the words she had written. Again a perhaps, I think, but both versions really stood out in their ability to move emotionally. Talking about age, I was leaving the local farm shop the weekend before last with a bag of sausages and a pork chop in my hand and in walked Judi Dench, 81. Very brisk in the stride but no obvious sign of her recent tattoo. My father said "well hello, nice to see you" and she was very pleasant in the brief response. Alas, there wasn't enough time for my mother to tell her how her late husband had once apologised to her for his dog being in her way.
      Great story Lat. I like to think that Dame Judi went up to the counter and asked for a packet of M&Ms and a Quantum of Solace.

      Re Joni, seems like she was discovered alone in her house in a mighty serious condition but according to the occasional news snippet she has been recovering and getting back painting. Articles suggest she became very much the recluse.
      When I was looking for some photos of her out and about again I came across this article from the Guardian a couple of years ago which argues that her run of 5 LPs - Blue, For the Roses, Court and Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns and Hejira - are unmatched by any artist. The fact that they are bookended by 'Ladies of the Canyon' and 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter' adds even more strength to the claim for me.
      As a new book and box set are released, Sean O’Hagan argues that Joni Mitchell’s very best albums contain a depth of songwriting that remains unsurpassed

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      • Lat-Literal
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        • Aug 2015
        • 6983

        #63
        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
        Great story Lat. I like to think that Dame Judi went up to the counter and asked for a packet of M&Ms and a Quantum of Solace.

        Re Joni, seems like she was discovered alone in her house in a mighty serious condition but according to the occasional news snippet she has been recovering and getting back painting. Articles suggest she became very much the recluse.
        When I was looking for some photos of her out and about again I came across this article from the Guardian a couple of years ago which argues that her run of 5 LPs - Blue, For the Roses, Court and Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns and Hejira - are unmatched by any artist. The fact that they are bookended by 'Ladies of the Canyon' and 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter' adds even more strength to the claim for me.
        https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...k-hejira-dylan
        Yes indeed John. I became persuaded in the early 2000s although I could when pushed try to find other examples. I have a new GP He is very much a public-private partnership, I feel, as they all are now and while he does what he is required to do no amount of words from me will provide any sort of connection. I rather like his command to be my own boss but that inevitably requires collaboration with a mainly benign force and that is either very obvious or it is not, yes? Incidentally, has anyone heard from Mr Sherratt recently?
        Last edited by Lat-Literal; 29-08-16, 18:40.

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        • johncorrigan
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          • Nov 2010
          • 10360

          #64
          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
          Incidentally, has anyone heard from Mr Sherratt recently?
          Heard PS get a mention on Cerys two or three weeks back, Lat.

          Interestingly Lat, I've been listening to a fair bit 'For the Roses' lately which I do from time-to-time. I got the LP for my 21st and still it speaks to me. With Joni on the one hand she says, 'I'm a wild seed, let the wind carry me'. But then she advises that 'you've gotta shake your fist like lightning, you've got to roar like forest fire, you've got to spread your light like blazes all across the sky. They're gonna aim the hoses on you, show 'em you won't expire.' Sometimes I dig the first one out from Joni's repertoire, sometimes I act on the second, and sometimes I start off doing one and end up doing the other. She lets me away with it, in my mind.

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          • Lat-Literal
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            • Aug 2015
            • 6983

            #65
            Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
            Heard PS get a mention on Cerys two or three weeks back, Lat.

            Interestingly Lat, I've been listening to a fair bit 'For the Roses' lately which I do from time-to-time. I got the LP for my 21st and still it speaks to me. With Joni on the one hand she says, 'I'm a wild seed, let the wind carry me'. But then she advises that 'you've gotta shake your fist like lightning, you've got to roar like forest fire, you've got to spread your light like blazes all across the sky. They're gonna aim the hoses on you, show 'em you won't expire.' Sometimes I dig the first one out from Joni's repertoire, sometimes I act on the second, and sometimes I start off doing one and end up doing the other. She lets me away with it, in my mind.
            Good news about Mr S getting a mention on the Cerys programme and Joni sounds in the words you write like a pal of Dylan Thomas.

            Given all of the current emphasis on Wales, including internationally, maybe it is time for it to be included properly on the Union Jack.

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            • Globaltruth
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              • Nov 2010
              • 4290

              #66
              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
              Heard PS get a mention on Cerys two or three weeks back, Lat.

              Interestingly Lat, I've been listening to a fair bit 'For the Roses' lately which I do from time-to-time. I got the LP for my 21st and still it speaks to me. With Joni on the one hand she says, 'I'm a wild seed, let the wind carry me'. But then she advises that 'you've gotta shake your fist like lightning, you've got to roar like forest fire, you've got to spread your light like blazes all across the sky. They're gonna aim the hoses on you, show 'em you won't expire.' Sometimes I dig the first one out from Joni's repertoire, sometimes I act on the second, and sometimes I start off doing one and end up doing the other. She lets me away with it, in my mind.
              Mr Sherratt and I exchange tweets from time to time, most recently re the Alan Lomax BBC shows with Max, who sounds as if he is going to try and find them... PS lives not too far from me; maybe next time he hosts one of his home gigs I may go.

              I agree with Lat - masterly lyric selection there Jc.

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              • johncorrigan
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                • Nov 2010
                • 10360

                #67
                I notice it's 5 years since this thread kicked off...don't the years just fly by. Today Joni reaches 75. I believe there's a big gala concert in tribute to her in LA today. Wonder if we'll catch a glimpse of the great one. Wonder if we'll ever hear any more from her. Happy Birthday Joni. Here's one of those songs and moments that made me fall in love with her all those years ago.
                Emerging artist Joni Mitchell moved to New York City in 1967, and took up residence in the arty Chelsea district. She met Elliot Roberts in the fall and he b...

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22120

                  #68
                  Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                  I notice it's 5 years since this thread kicked off...don't the years just fly by. Today Joni reaches 75. I believe there's a big gala concert in tribute to her in LA today. Wonder if we'll catch a glimpse of the great one. Wonder if we'll ever hear any more from her. Happy Birthday Joni. Here's one of those songs and moments that made me fall in love with her all those years ago.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaOSbBcPlfY
                  Great songs, great lyrics which tell a story, lovely voice. From ‘Song to a Seagull’ through to ‘Shine’ what a discography. Lesser artistes feel the need to reinvent where Joni just evolved! Happy 75th Joni, no doubt asking the question many of us do, ‘Where did all the years go’?

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #69
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Happy 75th Joni, no doubt asking the question many of us do, ‘Where did all the years go’?
                    In this poetic song, Joni Mitchell tells the story of a child's journey to adulthood. She uses a carousel as a metaphor for the years that go by, pointing ou...
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Oops! (Consider that a supplement to Global's #38 - which itself will very soon be celebrating its own 3rd birthday!)
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • muzzer
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                        • Nov 2013
                        • 1192

                        #71
                        Haven’t looked yet but I wonder if the birthday concerts will emerge online? There’s really no point in trying to imitate JM, the best of her records are unimproveable. That said, remasters of the great run of Court and Spark/Hissing/Hejira would be great. I think she remastered of a sort those tracks that she put on the anthology a few years ago, and also there are Japanese remasters of a sort. Anyone know more?

                        And have any forumites tried to replicate her famous guitar tunings? I’ve never found the time or the patience tbh. To say nothing of a lack of talent ofc.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37684

                          #72
                          Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                          Today Joni reaches 75.
                          Which makes her precisely 2 years and 1 day older than myself - something I hadn't previously realised.

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                          • Lat-Literal
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                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6983

                            #73
                            Ah - how utterly fantastic.

                            I am so pleased.



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                            • Lat-Literal
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                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6983

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Which makes her precisely 2 years and 1 day older than myself - something I hadn't previously realised.
                              Very many happy returns, Serial_Apologist, you Scorpion, you - I bet there is a fair bit of Libra and Sagittarius in that chart too.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37684

                                #75
                                Takes me back to the time when one hoped what my area of Western youth learned from eastern spiritualities - before the term "appropriation" - would tie in with our revitalised take on radical socialism. A shame that too was a case of perceived priorities meaning taking sides. What was staring us in the face got lost along the way.

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