Cerys on 6

[Guest]

By special request, a new thread on one of the best music programmes not on Radio 3.

[johncorrigan]

Cerys got tangoed by Daniel Meringo, who was in session this week and you can have a listen here - excellent stuff, I thought.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0121vvj

....though I'd also recommend the track by Lydia Mendoza that she played a couple in. Comes from this rather fine looking record with our old mate RC on selection duties.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126s/24843977.jpg

[eighthobstruction]

This was a very enjoyable prog', wish I had a group near me!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...e_Sacred_Harp/

[johncorrigan]

This was a very enjoyable prog', wish I had a group near me!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...e_Sacred_Harp/

As I was saying to Global, 8th, Neasden's the place to be.

[johncorrigan]

Global, just to say that, this morning Cerys played another one of those Hendrix at the Beeb tracks that you talked about from LJ the other night - Hound Dog, this time - blinkin' marvellous!

[Globaltruth]

Today she gave the drummer some.
I'd forgotten that Memphis Minnie was married to Kansas Joe.
Shame that habit of naming according to place never really caught on over here... Oh yes, the show - suited her breathless & excited style. She got as far as the 70's, more next week.

[johncorrigan]

Today she gave the drummer some.
I'd forgotten that Memphis Minnie was married to Kansas Joe.
Shame that habit of naming according to place never really caught on over here... Oh yes, the show - suited her breathless & excited style. She got as far as the 70's, more next week.

I think you're right Global we need to bring that naming back. Is that how ff got her name. I had a boss once that me and my workmates called Hamilton Bill, who got the name because he endlessly told us about how great Hamilton was and all the shenanigans he used to get up to in that exciting town .
Cerys played a lot of good records this morning, but we ended in that place where almost all the drummers were from that US/British tradition - maybe we'll go somewhere else next week.
By the way, Cerys did also mention that Jarvis was celebrating the Folsom Prison Concert 45 years ago today on his 6 show today.

[Lateralthinking1]

I think you're right Global we need to bring that naming back. Is that how ff got her name. I had a boss once that me and my workmates called Hamilton Bill, who got the name because he endlessly told us about how great Hamilton was and all the shenanigans he used to get up to in that exciting town .
Cerys played a lot of good records this morning, but we ended in that place where almost all the drummers were from that US/British tradition - maybe we'll go somewhere else next week.
By the way, Cerys did also mention that Jarvis was celebrating the Folsom Prison Concert 45 years ago today on his 6 show today.

I thought it was pretty good. The programme is quietly radical. There isn't another one on the network in the daytime where
you would find that mix of music. The guest was knowledgeable too. Agree with the man who suggested an extra hour for it.

[johncorrigan]

The guest was knowledgeable too.

Agree - thought he was very good - whenever I hear the start of 'Be My Baby' by the Ronettes I find myself wondering if there's ever been a better pop record - amazing drums. Here's an interesting story from Mr Creepy about the song, Mean Streets and how he held the career of Scorcese and De Niro in the palm of his hand but Lennon persuaded him to let it go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYBjOywJwLI

[Lateralthinking1]

Agree - thought he was very good - whenever I hear the start of 'Be My Baby' by the Ronettes I find myself wondering if there's ever been a better pop record - amazing drums.

Well, how strange. Snap! Exactly the same sort of thought crossed my mind although I hadn't ever thought it before. Have always been very keen on that Christmas record though, whatever his personal failings. There is a book which is fairly academic in tone - I don't think it is Charlie's - that concludes the perfect pop record is "Midnight Train to Georgia". I don't get that notion at all.

I don't think principally in terms of drumming - in fact the more I think about the process, the more I wonder how they do it, particularly when they are singing too - but a lot of the well-known tunes on the programme sounded remarkably fresh. That was because of the accent on the drums and it told me again that I do feel rhythm strongly in music. I knew it but it felt like new or additional information in the actual hearing. That, I guess, is the power of music - one doesn't necessarily pick out components.

Some of the jokes weren't so wonderful but I liked a lot of the other content - Karen Carpenter being highly proficient, Levon Helm as the only drummer who could make someone cry, and the way in which they only needed one microphone in the past whereas now they are so prone to error they often need twelve. I feel the Bonham thing is overstated but then there have been nicer people in the business. I particularly liked the suggestion of a Hammond organ programme in the future. That should be good too.

I feel that they could tighten up on the technical side of the programme slightly. There was a noticeable rattling of papers, the jingles aren't inserted smoothly at times and it was sadly a very big squash at the end. Cerys's speaking voice though is a ten.

[Lateralthinking1]

Here's an interesting story from Mr Creepy about the song, Mean Streets and how he held the career of Scorcese and De Niro in the palm of his hand but Lennon persuaded him to let it go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYBjOywJwLI

..........That is an exciting clip. Thanks. I can almost forgive anything in a true genius, particularly one who is a perfectionist. Just as happiness in music is much more difficult to achieve than negativity - how to steer clear of twee territory etc - I think it is pretty clear from decades of evidence that big production is not generally a good thing. Because those who have used huge sound highly effectively are very small in number, they should get extra merit marks for having done so, especially where there was also considerable innovation. In any case, technical limitations in those days often meant a lot of echo in records, as was noted in the programme, and I love echo effects in music. Let's have a Cerys programme on the use of echo too - it would be fascinating!

[Quarky]

I thought it was pretty good. The programme is quietly radical. There isn't another one on the network in the daytime where
you would find that mix of music. The guest was knowledgeable too. Agree with the man who suggested an extra hour for it.

A great programme. In an analytical sense she seems R6's version of our Alyn Shipton.

[Globaltruth]

./Let's have a Cerys programme on the use of echo too - it would be fascinating!

Agreed Agreed Agreed Agreed

[Lateralthinking1]

Agreed Agreed Agreed Agreed

[johncorrigan]

..........That is an exciting clip. Thanks. I can almost forgive anything in a true genius, particularly one who is a perfectionist. Just as happiness in music is much more difficult to achieve than negativity - how to steer clear of twee territory etc - I think it is pretty clear from decades of evidence that big production is not generally a good thing. Because those who have used huge sound highly effectively are very small in number, they should get extra merit marks for having done so, especially where there was also considerable innovation. In any case, technical limitations in those days often meant a lot of echo in records, as was noted in the programme, and I love echo effects in music. Let's have a Cerys programme on the use of echo too - it would be fascinating!

In general, Lat, I'm not a fan of big production as end result distances from the original. When it is used wonderfully as with Spector and Brian Wilson for example, you get the impression that they already hear the end result before they start. But if you want great echo this producer in his heyday took some beating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e4JXwd7XMo