I got the spelling from the Radio3 webpage - remember when we used to hang out there - it looks so much less familiar these days.
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Still haven't had a chance to listen to the second part of the birthday bash ... but I think that both editions will get permanently archived.
And isn't it funny where your pictures can end up nowadays !
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ff says that there is a powerful googlebot. Incidentally, I see that no 483 likes this -
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Thank you lat, that was a brand new treat !
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I loved it too - and sorry for the repeats but it is Christmas time.
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That is a fantastic clip.This is also interesting. The first half of it. The latter bit is a slightly predictable rant about teenagers going off the rails and conservative attitudes towards sex but it is the comment about the music business.
From governments through to very senior broadcasting and record business executives, he doesn't half have a point. Problem is that in 2010 no one there knows nothing. Every one of the bigwigs believes that he or she has a finger on the cultural pulse.
To summarise, a fair amount of knowledge is good. No knowledge is better. But a little knowledge in that situation is a dangerous thing - perhaps the very definition of X Factorisation and Radio Blandsville.
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........Yep, I'm definitely having a few Frank Zappa days. The interview footage on YT is compulsive viewing. The 20 or so minutes of Crossfire is particularly good value for money. And, John, well chosen timing as he would have just turned 70. He was a very talented and interesting individual and more genuine than many musicians. I really liked him as a person.
But why is it that Spotty, like Napster, has so little Frank music? Is it something to do with his views on "The Industry" that has led to his family withholding rights? If so, logical or illogical? Absolutely right or just plain wrong? Yes in terms of performers rights; more no on freedom of speech? What do ya think?
I like Nesmith too. Can anyone get me into his Videoranch? It is by invitation only. Live performances. Unusual artists. Fully accept that we will need to find a nifty link back to World Roots - too much meandering - but let's plan for that to be spontaneous. :cool2:Last edited by Guest; 22-12-10, 22:54.Comment
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Lat, did you have a look at these vids from the Steve Allen show - I really enjoyed them - not quite sure who Steve Allen is - some talk show guy I assume who interviews musical bike player Frank Zappa.
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....and not much Zappa on spoot u like right enough, but GT once drew my attention to a whole album dedicated to this rather fine song, LT.
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John, I'd seen the first one but not the rest. Really liked them, thanks, and they were so obviously enjoying that day. It is interesting because Allen doesn't quite get the knowing position of Zappa. Frank though plays along with it and he clearly sees the significance of that moment on TV for him while there is a hint I think that Allen feels that there might just be something to it. It possibly appealed to him not just because of the potential for humour but because he didn't like Elvis etc. There appears to be there quite a lot of mutual respect.
For all of that depth, which is not often apparent now in prime time television, there is an innocence to the interaction. It doesn't scream of the marketplace. It isn't a lot of whoopin' and a hollerin'. It isn't cheap razzmatazz. I think, among other things, of A Day In The Life, which has an innovative ending, but that was quite a few years later and there were many other examples in the late sixties of similar "novelty". Of course, Varese and others informed Frank but he was without question ahead of the times, quite literally therefore avant-grade. Thanks again - I thought all of it was great. Lat.Last edited by Guest; 22-12-10, 21:32.Comment
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....the latter will take a little more time to listen to but I will do and look forward to it. (BTW one of the toastie stalls diagonally opposite the camping shop at Womad has been known to play a lot of Zappa. Not an advert incidentally - the food is good and available almost every hour of the day but I don't know the people personally. Would be a good way to end the night after seeing Turan Mugham Ensemble).
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Lat - that song, from 'we're only in it for the money' with its great cover, reminds me of playing the old dansette quietly with my mate in case my dad came in and was offended by the post watershed language - he only worked in an engineering factory and would never have heard such words - just protecting his ears - or maybe scared of getting a box on the ears for listening to such songs (more likely) - such innocent times.
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John, that is interesting and it is very solid of you to say it.
I had a very similar experience with the infamous Grundy/Pistols interview which I just happened to be watching. Very odd actually as I didn't normally have that programme on. My father had taken me to football much earlier but he could never really put up with the language on the terraces. Instinctively he's not very tribal.
It was only slightly later that I could accommodate punk and then it was from a political, cultural, artistic, and vaudeville angle, not that this was as po faced or as weighty as all of that sounds. Rather, it was youthful. In the end, I found McLaren and Lydon fascinating, particularly the former for his cultural and commercial bloody-mindedness, and the years have shown that the latter's scepticism was insightful, if ostensibly money-making.
Have to say though that it was always the Clash for me because they were not just rudimentary but fundamental. Like the Pistols, they may have had the two-fingered sneer along with a sense of theatre, being dressed in Vince Cable hats, jungle gear, and anything else that didn't come from C and A. They still connected with my more mundane experience more directly and the cinematic reach of their later output was more real for being impressionistic. It worked on several levels.
And when the f word was there, it had some subtlety of purpose. This is precisely how it should have been given that the rest had essentially been done a full decade or so earlier. That, of course, had to happen anyway and it was often with considerable artistic merit. It has though all gone downhill in the mainstream which would never have been able to apply those essential freedoms with discretion and panache.
Blimey. What's happening today? There's lots of snow and yet I need to chill out! Lat.Last edited by Guest; 22-12-10, 22:44.Comment
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