Womad 2018

[Lat-Literal]

Which has F-all to do with musicians being able to travel in the EU and work.
What on earth are you on about ? on second thoughts i'm not really asking.

Try this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41901294

Maybe you need to look away from Ealing ?

The UK is being SWAMPED by Kora players ?

Well, I have just checked on my own area and it is 57% built on compared with the UK's 6%, plus a further 29% so called green urban which is not green compared with the UK's 3% - so that's 86% here versus 9% on average - and it is the latter section that is being removed by several percentage points annually with ever increasing speed. I don't know where you live but it won't be as here where Lunar House sits and new arrivals from Gatwick and Dover have to go immediately. They queue round several blocks daily. Many do not move a mile or two beyond that point - ever - and most of the rest don't travel outside the South East of England - for which the BBC conveniently doesn't provide figures - to find a long term home.

It has been this way ever since the 30,000 pa in the 1970s, a number I supported but which was enough to get all old colonels and Alf Garnett hot under the collar, turned into 300,000 pa. Eliza Carthy sings "Britain is a Car Park". No it ain't. The South East of England is fast becoming one large housing estate while Robin Hood's Bay where she lives and which I know well is wholly unchanged. You say this has nothing to do with the musicians' visa question. We agree on that point - or at least from my perspective it shouldn't do. But the entire commentary around this issue including in the press as posted seeks to link it directly to the decision to reject a position where we have no management on the numbers in this country.

[MrGongGong]

Well, I have just checked on my own area and it is 57% built on compared with the UK's 6%, plus a further 29% so called green urban compared with the UK's 3% and it is that section that is being removed by several percentage points annually. I don't know where you live but it won't be where Lunar House sits and new arrivals from Gatwick and Dover have to go immediately and queue round several blocks daily. Many do not move a mile or two beyond that point - ever - and most of the rest don't travel outside the South East of England - for which the BBC conveniently doesn't provide figures - to find a home. It has been this way ever since the 30,000 pa in the 1970s, a number I supported but which was enough to get all old colonels and Alf Garnett, hot under the collar turned into 300,000 pa. Eliza Carthy sings "Britain is a Car Park". No it ain't. The South East of England is fast becoming one large housing estate while Robin Hood's Bay and the like where she lives and which I know well is wholly unchanged. You say this has nothing to do with the musicians' visa question. We agree on that point - or at least from my perspective it shouldn't do. But the entire commentary around this issue including in the press as posted seeks to link it directly to the decision to reject a position where we have no management on the numbers in this country at all.

Which also has f all to do with musicians being able to travel and work
Maybe getting out of the South East would help you a bit ?

[Lat-Literal]

Which also has f all to do with musicians being able to travel and work
Maybe getting out of the South East would help you a bit ?

I would, permanently, and would have done so eight years ago but I can't as I have a sense of responsibility to others. You keep repeating your point. Are you suggesting that the visa difficulties which do exist are there just because Britain feels like having them? No other reason? As I say, I think it is all overestimated but at the same time it needs sorting. The shade of the main problem is not close to any skin colour or accent but rather grey - most people who just do a normal job and have families are as culturally grey as the concrete they live in.

[Beef Oven!]

I would, permanently, and would have done so eight years ago but I can't as I have a sense of responsibility to others. You keep repeating your point. Are you suggesting that the visa difficulties which do exist are there just because Britain feels like having them? No other reason? As I say, I think it is all overestimated but at the same time it needs sorting. The shade of the main problem is not close to any skin colour or accent but rather grey - most people who just do a normal job and have families are as culturally grey as the concrete they live in.

[Lat-Literal]

Thank you.

Was this on Cerys's Womad programme or somewhere else? This band which has been around for years and to a certain degree is "fusion" moves with this track from a consistent Beta double plus to an A minus. It's a terrific lyric and the musicianship is great. It is even a minor hit record if this were the 1990s. But I now sort of want to hear Tracey Thorn covering it.

Oi Va Voi - Big Brother - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Abbd43SLF0

[MrGongGong]

You keep repeating your point. Are you suggesting that the visa difficulties which do exist are there just because Britain feels like having them? No other reason? .

It's all part of the theatre.
Appearing to be "strong" to reinforce the narrative that the UK is under threat from the massed armies of Kora playing overtone singers who are going to steal our land, take our jobs and force everyone to worship alien gods.

[oddoneout]

It's all part of the theatre.
Appearing to be "strong" to reinforce the narrative that the UK is under threat from the massed armies of Kora playing overtone singers who are going to steal our land, take our jobs and force everyone to worship alien gods.

Well anything 'cultural' is inherently unimportant these days it would seem, so collateral damage from visa restrictions and delays doesn't matter. Except that it's also affecting getting clinicians appointed to NHS vacancies into the UK to take up their jobs.

[MrGongGong]

Well anything 'cultural' is inherently unimportant these days it would seem, so collateral damage from visa restrictions and delays doesn't matter. Except that it's also affecting getting clinicians appointed to NHS vacancies into the UK to take up their jobs.

Exactly
But never mind, it's all going to be fine ... la la la la la