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  • johncorrigan
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    • Nov 2010
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    10 'lost' female musicians who deserve more recognition.

    For International Women's Day, here's the list on the Beeb website of 10 'lost' female musicians who deserve more recognition..
    We're celebrating International Women's Day by shining a light on great artists who should have got more props


    I thought I'd go for Yanka Rupkina:
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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
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    #2
    Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
    For International Women's Day, here's the list on the Beeb website of 10 'lost' female musicians who deserve more recognition..
    We're celebrating International Women's Day by shining a light on great artists who should have got more props


    I thought I'd go for Yanka Rupkina:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqMCJ78SKf0
    It's quite a thoughtful list, isn't it.

    There's a fair few who I regard and a fair few I've never heard of.

    Obviously, I'm for Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou, 94, of the ones who are alive but let me give it some further contemplation.

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
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      #3
      Looks a bit thrown together and random to me, never heard of some of them!
      Where's Sandy Denny on that list or even more so Ethel Smyth of toothbrush fame!

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      • Lat-Literal
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        • Aug 2015
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        #4
        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        Looks a bit thrown together and random to me, never heard of some of them!
        Where's Sandy Denny on that list or even more so Ethel Smyth of toothbrush fame!
        It's very difficult actually. I'm hovering over Bela Bellow on the world music side but she veered towards the commercial. Not quite the Blues Woman of Africa as presented. Elsewhere, a part of me wants to say Bobbie Gentry because she really was lost as in the sense of suddenly disappearing and no one under 50 has ever heard of her. The great Regine Crespin is, undoubtedly, my lost classical music singer. I could bring forward a few of my usual names of composers but I've been posting them all recently. In jazz, Alice Coltrane although the Coltrane name is very well known or possibly Dorothy Ashby. For Serial-Apologist, Barbara Thompson, about whom I thought he was at one time writing a biography. Any news? But I want to stick if I can to world music - Evora, Cruz, Portuondo, Makeba - all too well known; and Levy, Mariza, Moura all of whom I like - I really like Levy - possibly don't quite fit the bill.

        For now:

        Not quite one of "mine" although I like her well enough and it will certainly please "the people"

        The Unanswered Question, the Enigma Variations and..........Let The Mystery Be:

        Iris DeMent - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
        Last edited by Lat-Literal; 09-03-18, 00:26.

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        • Lat-Literal
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          • Aug 2015
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          #5
          Also, May Aufderheide (Ragtime) and Clara Rockmore (Theremin).

          Plus Chavela Vargas, Violeta Parra and Lhasa de Sela.

          And:

          Mercedes Sosa - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCz0H55pkzo

          Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
          I thought I'd go for Yanka Rupkina:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqMCJ78SKf0
          Probably better than any of my selections.

          She's brilliant.

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          • johncorrigan
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
            Lhasa de Sela.
            Verity played 'What Kind of Heart' on LJ the other night, Lat. Magnificent!
            Canção "What Kind of Heart" de Lhasa de Sela, incluída no disco de 2009 "Lhasa".Lyric:WHAT KIND OF HEARTWOULD A BLIND MAN CHOOSEWOULD A BLIND MAN CHOOSEWHAT'...

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Pauline Oliveros & Laurie Speigel

              Yesterday I played some Daphne Oram to a group of GCSE music students, one of the most extraordinary musicians of the last 100 years
              but almost forgotten by the mainstream

              (they loved it, there is hope )

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              • Lat-Literal
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                • Aug 2015
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                #8
                I thought again overnight and recalled blind singer Dona Rosa.

                Also:

                Totó La Momposina:

                El Pescador - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq_i4Ik1z1w

                There really should be an African selection.

                I've already mentioned Makeba and Evora as being well known and am not especially minded to choose Traore, Sangare or Kidjo.

                Any suggestions?

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                  For Serial-Apologist, Barbara Thompson, about whom I thought he was at one time writing a biography. Any news?
                  Thanks Lat - actually helping on an autobiography, though it's a bit hush-hush, and Barbara's doing OK under the circs. I was going to mention her, given she was Ivy Benson's most important "pupil" (ahem), and the 10 listed's inclusion of... Laura Logic! I don't see any of Barbara's burgeoning contemporary classical output featuring anywhere on this past week's bespoke[d) programmes - they could probably filll an entire COTW, and make amends for this week's feeble fare.

                  Here's an early Barbara Thompson foray, the saxophone concerto, which I think is pretty good for someone more used to composing jazz fusion showcasing Paraphernalia and her own improvising. Much preferable to Richard Rodney Bennett's Concerto for Stan Getz of 4 years later, I reckon!

                  Performed at the World Saxophone Congress on the 9th July 2015 with the Orchestra Philharmonique de Strasbourg, the Concerto is in three movements.M1 Soloist...
                  Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 09-03-18, 17:42. Reason: To add the link

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                  • Lat-Literal
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                    • Aug 2015
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Thanks Lat - actually helping on an autobiography, though it's a bit hush-hush, and Barbara's doing OK under the circs. I was going to mention her, given she was Ivy Benson's most important "pupil" (ahem), and the 10 listed's inclusion of... Laura Logic! I don't see any of Barbara's burgeoning contemporary classical output featuring anywhere on this past week's bespoke[d) programmes - they could probably filll an entire COTW, and make amends for this week's feeble fare.

                    Here's an early Barbara Thompson foray, the saxophone concerto, which I think is pretty good for someone more used to composing jazz fusion showcasing Paraphernalia and her own improvising. Much preferable to Richard Rodney Bennett's Concerto for Stan Getz of 4 years later, I reckon!

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgP4oF7tuAc
                    Oops.

                    Please PM me if edits to posts are to be made and I will oblige.

                    Stella Chiweshe:

                    Mapere - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pom8stkqkc

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                    • johncorrigan
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post

                      Any suggestions?
                      Female Griot, Kandia Kouyate.
                      REGARDEZ tous les clips de Kandia Kouyaté : http://bit.ly/2tvDqakÉCOUTEZ / TÉLÉCHARGEZ l'album "Biriko" : https://lnk.to/FZoHKs9i▷Abonnez-vous à Syllart Reco...


                      The oft forgotten and mysterious Márta Sebestyén.
                      photo: http://mek.oszk.hu/02100/02115/html/2-846.htmllyrics:Love, loveaccursed torturewhy did you not blossomon every treetop?On the top of every tree,on t...

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                      • Lat-Literal
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                        • Aug 2015
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                        Female Griot, Kandia Kouyate.
                        REGARDEZ tous les clips de Kandia Kouyaté : http://bit.ly/2tvDqakÉCOUTEZ / TÉLÉCHARGEZ l'album "Biriko" : https://lnk.to/FZoHKs9i▷Abonnez-vous à Syllart Reco...


                        The oft forgotten and mysterious Márta Sebestyén.
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBoOa3PzPg8
                        A+ and A.

                        You are really getting some great ones in here, JC.

                        Re Kandia Kouyate, it's an "of course" and "how was it possible to forget?".

                        Excellent - I really do think the comparison is with Nina Simone.

                        Slightly fearsome, strident and yet subtle, warm in her own way.

                        (The arrangement on that track in particular is very special)

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                        • Once Was 4
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                          • Jul 2011
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                          It's quite a thoughtful list, isn't it.

                          There's a fair few who I regard and a fair few I've never heard of.

                          Obviously, I'm for Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou, 94, of the ones who are alive but let me give it some further contemplation.
                          What about Iris Lemaire? She conducted the BBC Symphony Orchestra at the Proms in the 1930s. I did several gigs under her baton in the 70s: I remember one at Darlington Civic Theatre; A Wagner Overture, Mozart Piano Concerto, Elgar Enigma and Tchaikovsky Pathetique. Not for the faint hearted in more than one sense!

                          The rest of the horn section were David Wise, Harry Brennand and Andy Jones. :My God! I am the only one still alive.

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                          • Lat-Literal
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Once Was 4 View Post
                            What about Iris Lemaire? She conducted the BBC Symphony Orchestra at the Proms in the 1930s. I did several gigs under her baton in the 70s: I remember one at Darlington Civic Theatre; A Wagner Overture, Mozart Piano Concerto, Elgar Enigma and Tchaikovsky Pathetique. Not for the faint hearted in more than one sense!

                            The rest of the horn section were David Wise, Harry Brennand and Andy Jones. :My God! I am the only one still alive.
                            Thank you for that wonderful memory.

                            She doesn't even appear to be googleable so "lost" is, sadly, the appropriate word.

                            That looks like quite a lengthy "gig" in Darlington to me - a place I sadly never managed to get to when in York.

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                            • Once Was 4
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                              • Jul 2011
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                              Thank you for that wonderful memory.

                              She doesn't even appear to be googleable so "lost" is, sadly, the appropriate word.

                              That looks like quite a lengthy "gig" in Darlington to me - a place I sadly never managed to get to when in York.
                              You are right - nothing. She was the daughter of the organist Edwin Lemaire who was the composer of Moonlight and Roses - a song which was a favourite of my grandmother's. He had two marriages and I am not sure which one produced Iris. He also left Britain for America and I do not think that he ever came back. Does anybody know more?

                              Before my time Iris ran her own orchestra which did gigs around Yorkshire - using mainly players from the West Riding Orchestra which was employed daytime only top give educational concerts in schools. When I played for her, her activities were much reduced and, although they were done under the banner of the Lemaire Orchestra, they were actually fixed by people such as the composer Ernest Tomlinson.

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