Irish Fridays

[johncorrigan]

John, I had intended to post that very performance, but...

It came from a series on TG4 in support of Women's Aid - Meitheal na mBan.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=meitheal+na+mban+tg4

You might like to know a little quirk about names in Irish - Nic Amhlaoibh for example. Her name in English would be MacAuley, but Mac is a masculine prefix meaning 'son of'; the feminine prefix is Nic.

Great minds, Padraig. I think the same thing happens in Scottish Gaelic re difference between the female and male names - I'll check with Mrs C - she knows about these things.

[Globaltruth]

Great minds, Padraig. I think the same thing happens in Scottish Gaelic re difference between the female and male names - I'll check with Mrs C - she knows about these things.

Whereas in Iceland it is the suffix to the surname which indicates the difference
Olaffson is son of Olaf
and
Jónsdóttir is daughter of Jon.


- very different to most (sur) naming systems in the West and also not always patronymic.

It's fun - you can get an Ingrid Ingridsdottir and my friend Waveney Croson used to get puzzled looks when she went to Reykjavík... or Waveney Crodottir as she was known from then on.


there is a link between Iceland and Ireland - Irish monks are said to pre-date the Vikings and are known as the Irish Papar. The Westman Islands are named after Irish visitors who are also credited with introducing sheep.

[Padraig]

Whereas in Iceland it is the suffix to the surname which indicates the difference
Olaffson is son of Olaf
and
Jónsdóttir is daughter of Jon.


- very different to most (sur) naming systems in the West and also not always patronymic.

It's fun - you can get an Ingrid Ingridsdottir and my friend Waveney Croson used to get puzzled looks when she went to Reykjavík... or Waveney Crodottir as she was known from then on.


there is a link between Iceland and Ireland - Irish monks are said to pre-date the Vikings and are known as the Irish Papar. The Westman Islands are named after Irish visitors who are also credited with introducing sheep.

And you said all that without moving your lips,G!

Yes, Olafsson is a distinctively different construction from MacOlaf though it could be whimsically translated into Irish as Mac Aobhlaoibh - like your Waveney in reverse. I came across these surnames in my Scandi thrillers and I thought they were more logical than our own - I could be called Patrick Williamsson - but would I like it?

Those monks certainly got around. Next think they'll be finding cells on the moon predating the 20th Century moon landings and a thriving cheese industry, or maybe some fossilized lamb chops.

[johncorrigan]

there is a link between Iceland and Ireland - Irish monks are said to pre-date the Vikings and are known as the Irish Papar. The Westman Islands are named after Irish visitors who are also credited with introducing sheep.

Kenneth Steven, who did a series of essays about Scottish islands on Radio 3 last week, wrote a series of poems about the Papar a number of years ago, GT. I seem to recall that some of the poems and stories appeared on Radio 3 and he explored some of those ancient legends of the 'missionaries' who had travelled to the north, I think even before St Brendan's legendary voyage. Here's one of the poems:

https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/tell-us-story-they-said/

[Padraig]

Oh She can whistle and she can sing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aboNV5gKdyc

[Globaltruth]

Thought I'd better get in a bit early before Padraig...

Lisa O'Neill.

This concert was streamed live from the NCH in Dublin on Jun 12.
Thanks to Max R just found out about it...

(starts about 14 minutes in)

Now available on YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19G3SYBkAfc

[Padraig]

Thought I'd better get in a bit early before Padraig...

Lisa O'Neill.

You know, G, I never took you for a oneupmanshipper. I always post on a Friday, usually, - after all it's Irish FRIDAYS. But if you want Thursday...

Aaaanyway, since Statues are in the news I thought you might like this one. Now, I have to admit openly and voluntarily that I was in Dublin in March 1966 for St Patrick's Day. I had nothing at all to do with the event referred to in this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZeWW0DTOHs

And thanks for the Lisa ONeill. Shades of Margaret Barry?

ps In case you did not make out the words!https://www.google.com/search?q=nels...hrome&ie=UTF-8

[johncorrigan]

You know, G, I never took you for a oneupmanshipper. I always post on a Friday, usually, - after all it's Irish FRIDAYS. But if you want Thursday...

Aaaanyway, since Statues are in the news I thought you might like this one. Now, I have to admit openly and voluntarily that I was in Dublin in March 1966 for St Patrick's Day. I had nothing at all to do with the event referred to in this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZeWW0DTOHs

And thanks for the Lisa ONeill. Shades of Margaret Barry?

ps In case you did not make out the words!https://www.google.com/search?q=nels...hrome&ie=UTF-8

HaHa! One in the eye for poor old Nelson, Padraig.
Looks like I need to move to a different time zone if I want to be first-in on a Friday. Anyway, I mentioned elsewhere that Mary Ann Kennedy was a guest on the BBC Radio Scotland folk show last night and they had a 'dreaming' theme. MAK was asked to choose a favourite dreaming song and she chose this forum favourite...'Aisling Gheal' by (at time of recording) 14-year-old, Iarla O' Lionaird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJrhjxynpE0

[Globaltruth]

You know, G, I never took you for a oneupmanshipper. I always post on a Friday, usually, - after all it's Irish FRIDAYS. But if you want Thursday...

Thursdays and Fridays would be fine with me! I look forward to your Friday posts Padraig. Never change them.

And thanks for the Lisa ONeill. Shades of Margaret Barry?

She would be proud of that comparison I am sure.

As JC said elsewhere - she is one-off. That first song On Raglan Road, and her insouciant wander down to the stage whilst giving us some perfect setting for that performance - entrancing.
Here is the rest of the Hilda Moriarty story..

http://www.irishidentity.com/extras/gaels/stories/hildaomalley.htm

She became an O'Malley - I am sure there will be a connection with the legendary Grace O'Malley of whom more perhaps another time...

[Globaltruth]

Padraig it's Friday....

Remember when people used to go to airports?

Never cared for them much, except when stuff like this happened...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_XvKcLxj6I

[Padraig]

Padraig it's Friday....

Remember when people used to go to airports?

Never cared for them much, except when stuff like this happened...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_XvKcLxj6I

So it's rowdy you want, G?

Try this - it's a kind of Grand Pub Karaoke Night Happy Hour. An Irish LNOP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s836K9d3f4Y

[johncorrigan]

So it's rowdy you want, G?

Try this - it's a kind of Grand Pub Karaoke Night Happy Hour. An Irish LNOP!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s836K9d3f4Y

A right tear-jerker, Padraig! Thanks for that!

[johncorrigan]

I was digging around Pete Seeger's 'Rainbow Quest' programmes from the mid-60s this morning. There's some great performances in there, and you can only be sad that they didn't make more series of it. I came across one with the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, and thought their take on the Little Beggarman might be ideal for a rainy Irish Friday...complete with a spot of step-dancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeewJyEbxEQ

[Padraig]

I was digging around Pete Seeger's 'Rainbow Quest' programmes from the mid-60s this morning. There's some great performances in there, and you can only be sad that they didn't make more series of it. I came across one with the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, and thought their take on the Little Beggarman might be ideal for a rainy Irish Friday...complete with a spot of step-dancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeewJyEbxEQ

The top of the morning to you too, John. I never knew The Little Beggarman but the tune has been in my head since the year dot. That
was indeed a lovely performance and one of the best I've seen of the Clancys and Tommy Makem. Doesn't his Northern accent sound great in that song?
I'm intrigued by the appearance of our esteemed founder. Good morning f f.

[Padraig]

A bit later than usual - leaving room for early birds - and a bit different too. With a background of Irish Jigs and Marches it's a tour of Inishowen, the O'Doherty Peninsula and natural hinterland of Derry cut off by the Border in 1922. Oh the sorrow of it. Worth a glance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlCURNjFPOE