Irish Fridays

[johncorrigan]

It was John Lee Hooker's birthday yesterday, born 1917 in Clarksdale, Mississippi and often when I think of John Lee, I think of the way Paul Durcan says JLH's name on Van's classic radio song, 'In the Days Before Rock'n'Roll'!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2GpEoZrS04

...and they let the goldfish go!
Happy Irish Friday!

[zola]

Record Review tomorrow will include a clip from this album of the new work by Donnacha Dennehy, featuring Iarla O'Lionard among others. Probably at around eleven in the morning.

https://www.nonesuch.com/albums/the-hunger

Actually, the extract began at 1050 if anyone wants to skip to it on replay.

[Padraig]

Thanks, zola.

I happened to hear some of the piece this morning and recognised Iarla straight away, and also the distinctive sound of the orchestra playing DD's music. I am now heading for the replay.

Included in your link I found this interesting:

https://www.nonesuch.com/journal/watch-story-donnacha-dennehy-the-hunger-2019-08-20

I'm sure I'm going to order this!

PS The extract is from approx 1.50 - 2.00

[Globaltruth]

Thanks Zola & Padraig, looking forward to catching up with this. In Sligo at the moment, on Saturday driving through Ballyfarnon spotted Turlough O’Carolan’s burial place in Kilronan burial ground.
Tomorrow perhaps a visit to Coleman’s Music Centre in Gorteen, quite close to the Roisin Dubh bar...

[Padraig]

Mention of Carolan - here is one of his tunes, Si Bheag Si Mhor (Little Fairies Big Fairies). Language hint, Global, - Bean Si - Fairy Woman -Banshee - associated with departed soul.

A bit of a rarity in that it is played by Ry Cooder, in memory of Rory Gallagher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDk_6NjpDJc

[Globaltruth]

Mention of Carolan - here is one of his tunes, Si Bheag Si Mhor (Little Fairies Big Fairies). Language hint, Global, - Bean Si - Fairy Woman -Banshee - associated with departed soul.

A bit of a rarity in that it is played by Ry Cooder, in memory of Rory Gallagher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDk_6NjpDJc

thanks for all the above Padraig - Bean Sí, well that was a bit of a revelation. I'm struggling with the rules around Bean and Bhean, seems the h is added at the end of a sentence? Anyway rather than grammar, your post reminded me that while in Sligo, and out of the blue, we were treated to a talk from a wonderful Sligo woman about cures and the wise women who know about such matters:

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4701671/4691608/4714229?ChapterID=4701671

(although the above were collected from a man).
Whatever you may think of these, they make fascinating reading.

[johncorrigan]

thanks for all the above Padraig - Bean Sí, well that was a bit of a revelation. I'm struggling with the rules around Bean and Bhean, seems the h is added at the end of a sentence? Anyway rather than grammar, your post reminded me that while in Sligo, and out of the blue, we were treated to a talk from a wonderful Sligo woman about cures and the wise women who know about such matters:

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4701671/4691608/4714229?ChapterID=4701671

(although the above were collected from a man).
Whatever you may think of these, they make fascinating reading.

Lost me at the silver paper in the mouth, Global...shivering just at the thought - would play havoc wi' the fillings. Not sure about the gooseberry thorns either...think I'll stick with the used teabags. And call me new fangled, but no way I'm letting a dog lick my leg...might get a taste for it. By the way, up north from here is Glen Shee translated alternatively as Glen of Peace or Glen of the Fairies.

[Padraig]

thanks for all the above Padraig - Bean Sí, well that was a bit of a revelation. I'm struggling with the rules around Bean and Bhean, seems the h is added at the end of a sentence? Anyway rather than grammar, your post reminded me that while in Sligo, and out of the blue, we were treated to a talk from a wonderful Sligo woman about cures and the wise women who know about such matters:

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4701671/4691608/4714229?ChapterID=4701671

(although the above were collected from a man).
Whatever you may think of these, they make fascinating reading.

These cures are still quite commonplace around here,Global. They work, you know!

One of the best is the cure for the hiccups:

Take a mouthful of cold water; stand with your arse to the fire until it boils.

The rules for aspirating (or leniting) nouns are quite complicated.

Take the word for 'woman' - 'bean'.

Bean by itself means 'a woman'. To say 'the woman' you have to use 'an' - the word for 'the'. There is no word for 'a'

The rule here is "'An' lenites (or aspirates) feminine nouns" - hence An bhean.

There are other rules but the 'h' is the clue that aspiration has happened. The meaning has not changed.

[Globaltruth]

These cures are still quite commonplace around here,Global. They work, you know!

One of the best is the cure for the hiccups:

Take a mouthful of cold water; stand with your arse to the fire until it boils.

The rules for aspirating (or leniting) nouns are quite complicated.

Take the word for 'woman' - 'bean'.

Bean by itself means 'a woman'. To say 'the woman' you have to use 'an' - the word for 'the'. There is no word for 'a'

The rule here is "'An' lenites (or aspirates) feminine nouns" - hence An bhean.

There are other rules but the 'h' is the clue that aspiration has happened. The meaning has not changed.

Thanks - that does help.
Part of the problem is that I'm not in touch with the language other than through a screen, need to be where it is spoken. there's only 1 solution...

One of the best is the cure for the hiccups:

Take a mouthful of cold water; stand with your arse to the fire until it boils.

sound like it might be a cure for people spouting hot air too. There's a lot of 'em about....

[Padraig]

Part of the problem is that I'm not in touch with the language other than through a screen, need to be where it is spoken. there's only 1 solution...

Big problem Global, as I well know myself. I go to my grammar books in the first instance.
Take your 'woman' for example -'bean', pronounced 'ban'.
An bhean, pronounced an van. bh sounds like a v, because it is followed by a slender vowel.
On the other hand, take mor - big, pronounced 'more'. When aspirated it is mhor, pronounced 'wore' - a 'w' sound -in some cases - because it is followed by a broad vowel.

Here's a song to relax you - An tSean Bhean Bhocht - An shan van whocht(?)- The Old Woman Poor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PBiig46hrA

When I'm at it , the adjective sean meaning old, always comes before the noun contrary to the rule that adjectives follow the noun. Which accounts for the odd construction above. In part.

[Globaltruth]

Big problem Global, as I well know myself. I go to my grammar books in the first instance.
Take your 'woman' for example -'bean', pronounced 'ban'.
An bhean, pronounced an van. bh sounds like a v, because it is followed by a slender vowel.
On the other hand, take mor - big, pronounced 'more'. When aspirated it is mhor, pronounced 'wore' - a 'w' sound -in some cases - because it is followed by a broad vowel.

Here's a song to relax you - An tSean Bhean Bhocht - An shan van whocht(?)- The Old Woman Poor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PBiig46hrA

When I'm at it , the adjective sean meaning old, always comes before the noun contrary to the rule that adjectives follow the noun. Which accounts for the odd construction above. In part.

Thanks. I'm sure you know about this Independent Irish dictionary site already, but, just in case:

http://www.potafocal.com/

We were told this is the site used when teaching Gaelic in schools (potafocal.ie). NB Accent sensitive (e.g. won't find 'nos' but will find 'nós').

currently addressing the fascinating area of prepositions

[johncorrigan]

Liag - Dermot Byrne, Éamonn Coyne & John Doyle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUnYLm9HzXo

Happy Irish Friday.

[Globaltruth]

You may find the choice of music (an aria from the N. Rimsky-Korsakov opera "Sadko" performed by Feodor Shalyapin) slightly surprising:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHgT6RliPik

all will become clear should you ever watch:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44534911

Not sure about his paintings, but a fascinating person - his adventures in Ireland is intriguing.

[Globaltruth]

On a Thursday because visionary Cork-born composer Seán ÓRiada, born John Reidy, (1931–1971) died on 3 October at Denmark Hill, London.

Here the Chieftains play one of his famous compositions, ‘Women of Ireland’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5_8GIW17g

[Padraig]

You may find the choice of music (an aria from the N. Rimsky-Korsakov opera "Sadko" performed by Feodor Shalyapin) slightly surprising:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHgT6RliPik

all will become clear should you ever watch:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44534911

Not sure about his paintings, but a fascinating person - his adventures in Ireland is intriguing.

Thanks for all that, G. I missed the local item first time around.

Annie McGinley got my attention and I was pleased to find this iPlayer documentary take up her story. It's an hour long, but packed with touching detail.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b8g57q/ar-lorg-annie

About the paintings ... Ta siad go h-olc ar fad. (they are bloody awful) - I'm quoting from the documentary! I don't agree.

Re Sean ORiada's anniversay it has to be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGPe9qeN_VY