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  • Globaltruth
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    • Nov 2010
    • 4286

    Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
    Here's the Chieftains with Lila Downs and Ry Cooder from that great colab, 'San Patricio' - 'La Iguana'.
    Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupLa Iguana · The Chieftains · Lila DownsSan Patricio℗ 2010 Blackrock Records LLC, under exclusive license to Conco...

    I'm willing to bet that Lila would make a fine step-dancer..
    The back story to this album...
    The Chieftains' Paddy Moloney has been obsessed with the historical account of the San Patricios, a band of immigrant Irish soldiers who deserted the American Army during the Mexican-American War in 1846 to fight for the other side, against the Manifest Destiny ideology of James Polk's America. Moloney’s Chieftains and co-producer Ry Cooder decided to try to tell it musically. The result brings this fascinatingly complex tale to life in the modern world and examines issues of discrimination, conscience, and empire.

    The knowledge of Argentinian radio programmer Guadalupe Jolicouer pointed Moloney to traditional Mexican sources -- canciones, sons, norteños, rancheras, boleros, and polkas from the period. Moloney sorted them. He then selected, arranged, and added music he knew from the period that echoed the Irish sources. He and Cooder rounded up the numerous players, instruments, and locales necessary. Mexican performers such as los Tigres del Norte, Lila Downs, Chavela Vargas, los Folkloristas, los Camperos de Valles, and many others are featured alongside the Chieftains, Cooder, Linda Ronstadt, Galician piper Carlos Nunez, Liam Neeson, and Van Dyke Parks. Sessions were taped in Mexico, Spain, Los Angeles, New York, and Dublin. Sung in Spanish and English, the collection illumines the San Patricios’ chapter in Irish history, which was considered shameful until recently -- though in Mexico they’ve always been regarded as heroes. Through utterly compelling and ingenious musical preservation and invention, the album asks questions about commonalities between cultures; it offers evidence that history, when told personally enough, reflects shared experiences across territorial and chronological lines, and stands outside any “official” narrative, mirroring back to listeners what they can feel empathy for and sympathize with.

    While this album sounds like the Chieftains playing in fusion mode, it is so much more ambitious than anything they’ve attempted before. Some of the music here is contemporary, though much of it is over a century old; yet it reaches past its settings into the present day, telling of the indelibly rich meeting of two cultures oppressed by a third. It’s full of gorgeous songs of heroism, love, tragedy, and loss. San Patricio's songs are sung passionately, without artifice, they're played expertly. The album may jar some listeners initially, but spending a little time with it will remedy that. San Patricio, more than merely satisfying Moloney’s obsession, raises more questions about what stories lay hidden under the floorboards of history than it answers, thank goodness. Music this beautifully articulated allows cultures to talk to one another across time, space, language, and other divides.
    maybe post another track somewhere else on Tuesday

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    • johncorrigan
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      • Nov 2010
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      Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
      The back story to this album...


      maybe post another track somewhere else on Tuesday
      Looking forward to it already, Global. Thanks for the back story...most illuminating. On YouTube I saw a version 'La Iguana' with Lila Downs in full performance mode - brilliant harp player with her. Perhaps I'll post it on Tuesday too.

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      • Padraig
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        • Feb 2013
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        As long as we're still here I thought I would contribute this item which I have just found. It is a conversation between Martin Hayes, Tommy Tiernan and Myles O'Reilly, a great favourite of John and Global who have introduced his films to Irish Fridays, and to me. There's a bit of not your ordinary chat, some interesting observations on traditional music and a tune from Martin Hayes.

        Martin Hayes and Myles O'Reilly on The Tommy Tiernan ShowSee current films by Myles O'Reilly on https://www.patreon.com/mylesoreillyFull Version available to...

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        • Globaltruth
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          • Nov 2010
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          Thanks Padraig. Bit gutted to find i missed these 2 who performed at York Early music festival

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          • Globaltruth
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            • Nov 2010
            • 4286

            and, as I was about to say, the two artists are Catrin Finch (harp) and Aoife Ni Bhriain (violin)





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            • Padraig
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              • Feb 2013
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              Well done Global. And well done me too. So far so good. Interesting piece for harp and Hardangar fiddle. Have nothing in return yet - just keen to show I'm here!

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              • Padraig
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                • Feb 2013
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                [QUOTE=Padraig;n1279555]
                . Have nothing in return yet - /QUOTE]

                I have something now. An old chestnut - a future classic- in the town of the title. If you're from Derrry you will be bound to shed a tear, but do your best anyway.

                Phil Coulter & the people of Derry sing The Town I Loved So Well - YouTube


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                • johncorrigan
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  She was a troubled soul, but Sinead O'Connor had one wonderful voice as witnessed here with our old pals, The Chieftains, back almost thirty years ago on 'the Foggy Dew'.

                  Rest peacefully, Sinead.

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                  • kernelbogey
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    Glad to see a mention of Sinead here, since her death has sparked so much comment in the media. She was not an artist whose work spoke to me, but on a music Forum I think it's important that she should be remembered.

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                    • johncorrigan
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                      Glad to see a mention of Sinead here, since her death has sparked so much comment in the media. She was not an artist whose work spoke to me, but on a music Forum I think it's important that she should be remembered.
                      Last night while flicking through the channels I chanced on 'Nothing Compares', a documentary telling the story of Sinead O'Connor's background, catapult to fame and her ostracism by the press as a crazy woman. I have to say that it was very interesting to see a more three-dimensional picture of the singer. The documentary painted the picture of a forerunner, willing to stand up for her beliefs and unwilling to bow to the demands of the record industry - at the start of her career she got pregnant and was told she needed to get an abortion as it would affect sales - needless to say, she refused. There is no doubt that she had a powerful personality and a powerful voice, not always to my taste I should add, but I had forgotten a couple of fine records by her from that early period - 'Mandinka' for instance. Strangely, given the title of the doc, the film maker was refused permission by the Prince Estate to use any of 'Nothing Compares 2 U', the track which really shot her to fame. The doc finished with a rather moving performance of 'Thank You for Hearing Me'. Very interesting watch, I thought.

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                      • johncorrigan
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        Here's Sinead O'Connor once again with the Chieftains, this time with Sir Van on 'Have I Told You Lately' - always good to see and hear Van in playful mood, though it looks like Sinead isn't quite so sure about it.
                        Sinead and Van perform a duet of the classic song.(From "Late Show" in London, 5/17/95)#sineadoconnor #vanmorrison #letterman Subscribe to Letterman: https:/...

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                        • Globaltruth
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post

                          Last night while flicking through the channels I chanced on 'Nothing Compares', a documentary telling the story of Sinead O'Connor's background, catapult to fame and her ostracism by the press as a crazy woman. I have to say that it was very interesting to see a more three-dimensional picture of the singer. The documentary painted the picture of a forerunner, willing to stand up for her beliefs and unwilling to bow to the demands of the record industry - at the start of her career she got pregnant and was told she needed to get an abortion as it would affect sales - needless to say, she refused. There is no doubt that she had a powerful personality and a powerful voice, not always to my taste I should add, but I had forgotten a couple of fine records by her from that early period - 'Mandinka' for instance. Strangely, given the title of the doc, the film maker was refused permission by the Prince Estate to use any of 'Nothing Compares 2 U', the track which really shot her to fame. The doc finished with a rather moving performance of 'Thank You for Hearing Me'. Very interesting watch, I thought.
                          Strange because the Nothing Compares 2 U video is freely available on YT


                          I haven't seen the doc or read many of the tributes, but she did have a genuine love for reggae. I always liked that about her.
                          Her album Throw Down Your Arms is full of reggae covers.

                          Here she is doing a great version of the LSP song Vampire:

                          Sinéad O'Connor - Vampire (Lee Perry) from "Throw down your arms" album.Obadiah ObadiahJah Jah sent us here to catch vampireObadiah ObadiahJah Jah sent us he...



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                          • johncorrigan
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            I think there was an issue between Prince and Sinead regarding the song - some say he was scunnered that someone had dared to do a better version of one of his songs than him and that people would then think the song was a Sinead song rather than a Princey one. She also made claims about his violence towards her. I suppose that's why the Prince estate refused to permit the song in the film.

                            That was a fab version of the Lee Perry song, Global - it certainly came through in the documentary that she gravitated towards the West Indian community - she was doing an acapella take on Bob Marley's 'War' when she tore up the picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live.

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                            • johncorrigan
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              Sorry to keep going on about Sinead; however I read comments from David Holmes who produced the last music she recorded (as yet unreleased) about what a wonderful experience it had been working with her. Here is one of those late recordings, Sinead's version of Mahalia Jackson's 'Trouble of the World'...powerful.
                              Listen/Buy here - https://ffm.to/sctotw All of Sinead O'Connor's profits from the single 'Trouble of The World' are going to Black Lives MatterDirector: Don...

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                              • antongould
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                                Sorry to keep going on about Sinead; however I read comments from David Holmes who produced the last music she recorded (as yet unreleased) about what a wonderful experience it had been working with her. Here is one of those late recordings, Sinead's version of Mahalia Jackson's 'Trouble of the World'...powerful.
                                Listen/Buy here - https://ffm.to/sctotw All of Sinead O'Connor's profits from the single 'Trouble of The World' are going to Black Lives MatterDirector: Don...

                                no apology needed John

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