The 10 most disturbing folk songs in history?

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  • zola
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    • May 2011
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    #16
    Poor Murdered Woman - Jackie Oates

    On Christmas Day It Happened So - Waterson Carthy ( Tim Van Eyken )

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    • johncorrigan
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Chris Wood - Albion
      Wonderful!

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      • Flosshilde
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Nursery rhymes are extremely disturbing
        Not nearly as disturbing as the Grimms' 'fairy tales' - rape, torture, mutilation etc.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
          Not nearly as disturbing as the Grimms' 'fairy tales' - rape, torture, mutilation etc.
          Very true

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          • Mary Chambers
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1963

            #20
            Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
            Not nearly as disturbing as the Grimms' 'fairy tales' - rape, torture, mutilation etc.
            They are folk tales rather than fairy tales, aren't they? I agree they're very sinister.

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            • mangerton
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              • Nov 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
              Why all these aristocrats?
              I suspect because they were, almost without exception, an unmitigated shower. For example, as mentioned above, there was the Lord in Matty Groves. Then there was the aristocrat who "told the tale" on Sir Patrick Spens, who was never a sailor.

              The Scottish borders are the source of a number of ballads/folk songs, many collected by Scott. The ballad of Lord Soulis - another Fine Example of our aristocracy - tells how he was eventually boiled to death in a cauldron of molten lead in Hermitage Castle. "Tam Lin" is another interesting tale of the aristocracy. Even higher up the social ladder, The "Ballad of Johnny Armstrang" tells us exactly why the psalmist was correct in warning us to "put not our trust in princes", or indeed kings.

              Lastly, as a chilling tale of what lies beyond the grave, "The Lyke-Wake Dirge" must surely be hard to beat.

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              • Cockney Sparrow
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                • Jan 2014
                • 2292

                #22
                Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                I suspect because they were, almost without exception, an unmitigated shower.
                'twas ever thus...

                Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                The Scottish borders are the source of a number of ballads/folk songs...
                I not infrequently drive into the borders, often arriving after midnight and after a long journey - a favourite, whilst the family are sleeping, is June Tabor's album of border ballad based songs "An Echo of Hooves"
                June Tabor makes the ultimate album for all discerning folk fans, featuring a programme made up exclusively of the great traditional folk ballads - story telling at its dark, urgent best. June's regular trio of accompanists (Huw Warren - piano, cello; Mark Emerson -

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                • Flosshilde
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                  They are folk tales rather than fairy tales, aren't they?
                  I'd agree, but they're usually called 'Grimms' Fairy Tales' & published in very sanitised versions for children.

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                  • cloughie
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                    • Dec 2011
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    The Great Silkie of Siule Skerri
                    Definitely - and almost any song including a mermaid doesn't end well.

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                    • johncorrigan
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Some nasty villains in there - this one's not nice at all, though (spoiler alert) the baddy gets her comeuppance in the end.
                      Anais Mitchell & Jefferson Hamer - Willie's Lady
                      Don't forget to subscribe for more Crypt Sessions: http://bit.ly/cryptsessionssubscribeAnais Mitchell & Jefferson Hamer perform 'Willie's Lady (Child 6)' for...

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                      • johncorrigan
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #26
                        'Child Owlet' from (spoiler alert) BBC Radio 2 folk awards duo of the year, Kathryn Roberts and Sean Lakeman.
                        Great performance of the the traditional Child Owlet from Kathryn Roberts and Sean Lakeman. Their album 'Tomorrow Will Follow Today' is available here: https...

                        Not that I often listen to award shows but very enjoyable programme tonight from the Albert Hall on R2.

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                        • Globaltruth
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4303

                          #27
                          Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                          'Child Owlet' from (spoiler alert) BBC Radio 2 folk awards duo of the year, Kathryn Roberts and Sean Lakeman.
                          Great performance of the the traditional Child Owlet from Kathryn Roberts and Sean Lakeman. Their album 'Tomorrow Will Follow Today' is available here: https...

                          Not that I often listen to award shows but very enjoyable programme tonight from the Albert Hall on R2.
                          Indeed JC - and probably worth a thread of its own, as there was little of a disturbing nature about it...

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                          • greenilex
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            The June Tabor has a good booklet on free download.

                            Different version of Sir Patrick Spens. Anyone know the tune?

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by greenilex View Post
                              The June Tabor has a good booklet on free download.

                              Different version of Sir Patrick Spens. Anyone know the tune?
                              There's this one by Martin Carthy



                              or Ewen MacColl

                              The daddy of all the Scottish ballads. Not the best quality recording, but this is Sir Patrick Spens as it should be heard - thanks to Ewan MacColl.The King ...

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                                I'd agree, but they're usually called 'Grimms' Fairy Tales' & published in very sanitised versions for children.
                                I grew up with an inherited 1920s edn. illustrated by Mabel Lucie Attwell (even so some are still pretty disturbing). In recent years I picked up a 1905 reprint of the first English edition - 55 tales which were published in 2 vols in 1823 and 1826 (with illustrations by George Cruikshank) as "Popular stories collected by the Brothers Grimm" - and pretty visceral some of them are too. Even a sanitised version of The Goose Girl, to pick but one, can't get round a talking horse having its head cut off, even if you leave out the false maid being put in a barrel knocked through with nails and rolled through the streets In the same shop (an antiquarian bookshop in Long Melford, Lovejoy country ), we picked up some framed Arthur Rackham illustrations for the tales, which are very much in the spirit of the original.

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