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  • Globaltruth
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    • Nov 2010
    • 4291

    Well now, due to your continued interest, current equine attraction and to finish this little sub-thread off (probably) here's a clip of the [Benedict] Comberbach Soulcakers that combines the Christmas Champions AND the Mari-Lwyd - except in this case, she is known as the Hodening Horse
    The Comberbach Soulcakers with their 'Hodening Horse' (the Oss) at the Chapel House Inn, Mobberley, Cheshire."Soul, soul, for a soul cake, I pray, good missi...

    Note the slightly embarassed way most of the performers have, the yawning barmaid and, of course, the TV remains on throughout.

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    • Lat-Literal
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      • Aug 2015
      • 6983

      Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
      Well now, due to your continued interest, current equine attraction and to finish this little sub-thread off (probably) here's a clip of the [Benedict] Comberbach Soulcakers that combines the Christmas Champions AND the Mari-Lwyd - except in this case, she is known as the Hodening Horse
      The Comberbach Soulcakers with their 'Hodening Horse' (the Oss) at the Chapel House Inn, Mobberley, Cheshire."Soul, soul, for a soul cake, I pray, good missi...

      Note the slightly embarassed way most of the performers have, the yawning barmaid and, of course, the TV remains on throughout.
      Excellent.

      I think the customers are very brave.

      It is best to hide behind several people at those sorts of events because you never know what you might be dragged into or indeed how.

      Incidentally, I do have a very odd story about Cumberbatches - black - which developed on another forum.

      But I will save it.

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      • Globaltruth
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        • Nov 2010
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        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post

        Incidentally, I do have a very odd story about Cumberbatches - black - which developed on another forum.

        But I will save it.
        Why Lat, you tease.
        Are you sure it doesn't involve this...


        Ah no, that's a black cummerband.
        ;-)

        Or this....


        Ah no, that's a Cumberland Gap

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        • johncorrigan
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          • Nov 2010
          • 10376

          ...or this?

          Aw naw, that'll be Cumbernauld!

          Thanks for the Christmas Champs, by the by Global...delightful!

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          • Lat-Literal
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            • Aug 2015
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            • Globaltruth
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              • Nov 2010
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              Along the way I've found a free bit of software that lets you strip the sound off a YouTube video and create an MP3. Think it's legal as long as the original video is covered by the Creative Commons licence.
              I knew you'd be interested...

              Anyway Christmas Champs is compulsory at some point during this period. I'm chuffed you both liked it (still - 2007 when they recorded it)
              Still trying to track down that Doctor Quack, just 3 drops please doctor.

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              • johncorrigan
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                • Nov 2010
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                Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                Anyway Christmas Champs is compulsory at some point during this period. I'm chuffed you both liked it (still - 2007 when they recorded it)
                Still trying to track down that Doctor Quack, just 3 drops please doctor.
                Yeah but three drops of what, GT? Also loved the Mari-Lwyd vid - I've listened to it lots of times over the last few years but knew nothing of its links to the horse skull wandering the streets. Most interesting indeed.

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                • Globaltruth
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                  Yeah but three drops of what, GT? Also loved the Mari-Lwyd vid - I've listened to it lots of times over the last few years but knew nothing of its links to the horse skull wandering the streets. Most interesting indeed.
                  Well master storyteller (he's more than that of course) Hugh Lupton deserves all the credit for the research work via the Mari Lwyd lyrics.
                  I admire the way the layers of meaning and/or interpretation in a lot of his work (perhaps not in One in a Million).
                  The 'three drops'? We're nearly there in terms of when the three drops start to take effect - equinox tomorrow.

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                  • Lat-Literal
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                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6983

                    Actually it isn't much of a story. I wouldn't recognise Benedict Cumberbatch if he passed me on a street and I said so on a forum. What I also said was that Cumberbatch is a very unusual name but I did know someone of that name who was black and originally from Barbados. Another member e-mailed me to say that he had been reviewing all of his late father's diaries, many of which were written during the war. I knew he was doing that review anyway. He asked me whether the first name of the Cumberbatch I knew was X and around such and such an age (I won't name him here). And I said "goodness, yes.......do you know him?" and he replied "no, not really but I think his father was a close friend of my father". He then sent me a photo of perhaps a dozen or so military people with their names written alongside. One was his father - and another one was the only black man in the group and he was a Cumberbatch. There were other bits and pieces in the writing to link it up. As I say, not the greatest story but I wonder how Benedict acquired that name?
                    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 20-12-16, 15:13.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                      ... but I wonder how Benedict acquired that name?
                      His father is Tim Carlton Cumberbatch.

                      "Cumberbatch" derives from Old English, "Cumber" (as in "Cumbria" and "Cumberland" - and "Cambria"; the pre-Saxon designation of the peoples of Britain) and "Batch" (meaning "stream" or "brook", as in the modern German "bach").
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Lat-Literal
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                        • Aug 2015
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                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        His father is Tim Carlton Cumberbatch.

                        "Cumberbatch" derives from Old English, "Cumber" (as in "Cumbria" and "Cumberland" - and "Cambria"; the pre-Saxon designation of the peoples of Britain) and "Batch" (meaning "stream" or "brook", as in the modern German "bach").
                        Oh.....perhaps there are different derivations then?

                        Thank you.

                        nb I have just googled....genuinely. This makes for interesting reading!

                        Slavery built the Cumberbatch fortune, which at its height in the mid-18th century made them one of Britain’s wealthiest families, owning at least seven Barbados sugar plantations and a stately home near Taunton, Somerset.

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                        • Globaltruth
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                          Actually it isn't much of a story. I wouldn't recognise Benedict Cumberbatch if he passed me on a street and I said so on a forum. What I also said was that Cumberbatch is a very unusual name but I did know someone of that name who was black and originally from Barbados. Another member e-mailed me to say that he had been reviewing all of his late father's diaries, many of which were written during the war. I knew he was doing that review anyway. He asked me whether the first name of the Cumberbatch I knew was X and around such and such an age (I won't name him here). And I said "goodness, yes.......do you know him?" and he replied "no, not really but I think his father was a close friend of my father". He then sent me a photo of perhaps a dozen or so military people with their names written alongside. One was his father - and another one was the only black man in the group and he was a Cumberbatch. There were other bits and pieces in the writing to link it up. As I say, not the greatest story but I wonder how Benedict acquired that name?
                          I found this interesting Lat, thanks - and the Daily Mail article was surprisingly factual, the whole investigation turning into a satisfying detective story.

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                          • johncorrigan
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                            Well master storyteller (he's more than that of course) Hugh Lupton deserves all the credit for the research work via the Mari Lwyd lyrics.
                            I admire the way the layers of meaning and/or interpretation in a lot of his work (perhaps not in One in a Million).
                            The 'three drops'? We're nearly there in terms of when the three drops start to take effect - equinox tomorrow.
                            Reading through a Christmas book of poems I came upon Christmas by Leigh Hunt. I assume it was written in the early to mid-1850s. A nice wee litany of English Christmas traditions including some already mentioned this last few days and some I never heard of.

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                            • Lat-Literal
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                              • Aug 2015
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                              Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                              I found this interesting Lat, thanks - and the Daily Mail article was surprisingly factual, the whole investigation turning into a satisfying detective story.
                              That pleases me a great amount. Not that I am jumping to conclusions but I was reminded of the recent "Who Do You Think You Are?" in which presenter Liz Bonnin traced her family back to Martinique and Trinidad among other places and discovered that in her family tree a white slave owner had married a black slave. This was described as unusual but it was not unique. My colleague who was a fair number of years older than me had been a bit of a socialist firebrand. He would be brotherly with most of us who he considered to be in the lower orders but he frequently rubbed management up the wrong way with militant talk. That talk often seemed exceptionally bitter, personal and deep rooted. I may now know why especially! There were also aspects that few would have known and even fewer would have believed - a Scottish law degree which had led to nowhere and about which only we chosen ones were told, hints at local black rights leadership in London ("my people") and perhaps surprisingly properties in Barbados to which he was about to retire.

                              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                              Reading through a Christmas book of poems I came upon Christmas by Leigh Hunt. I assume it was written in the early to mid-1850s. A nice wee litany of English Christmas traditions including some already mentioned this last few days and some I never heard of.
                              https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...poem-christmas
                              Very nice JC.
                              Last edited by Lat-Literal; 22-12-16, 22:37.

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                              • Lat-Literal
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                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6983

                                .......I have added some tunes to our Christmas Spotify list.

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