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  • johncorrigan
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    • Nov 2010
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    Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
    The second is Japanese and very beautiful.
    That's putting it mildly Lat - blinkin' marvellous it is!
    Last edited by johncorrigan; 15-11-12, 15:33. Reason: piece a cake for Bob!!!

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    • Lateralthinking1

      Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
      That's putting it mildly Lat - blinkin' marvellous it is!
      John, I am pleased you liked it. I like it very much and would ask the R3 WM team to feature more traditional/mod-trad Japanese music. That Nick does quite a bit of Japanese electronica is, of course, noted. In fact, I am tempted to include Cornelius here.

      I hope Global will be available to add some more soon. There are two or three that I just know he will choose at some point so I'm not including those myself. Am mulling over various other things. I feel we need another by Youssou and by Nusrat but which? Youssou's "Set" strikes me as culturally significant, there is the 'Egypt' album which is distinctive, and '7 Seconds' obviously. Collaborations would avoid repetition. I do like the one with Patrice Larose and Julie Sarr very much. Love 'Tere Bin Nahin Lagda'.

      I'm trying to find a great one from Galicia but can't decide - looking at Luxula, Uxia, Fia Na Roca etc. More Brittany? Should it be Stivell or someone else? More oud might suggest Farid Al Atrache. I might find some taiko drummers. Really like Antibalas even though they are not quite the real thing geographically. I would welcome someone choosing one from Ibrahim Ferrer because I can't decide. I'm looking for a bit of a steer too on the older Cuban material - Machito, Bauza, etc. We haven't had Valdes. Gilberto Gil and Costa are missing from Brazil. Masakela. There is clearly more from Mexico, Columbia etc. Orishas if we have a token rap?

      Probably lots more.........good fun isn't it!!

      Actually, I know this is ultra commercial and it isn't on Spotify but I do like it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfo4Ke0aJqs
      Last edited by Guest; 17-11-12, 15:01.

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      • Globaltruth
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        • Nov 2010
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        Thanks for the BD (and other) tracks in my inbox JC. I never listen to his stuff so I tend to enjoy his work when it is actually pointed out...hmm, that almost makes sense.

        Lat- I feel under some pressure now to double guess some entries. I'm holding off on my usual suspects (Messrs Carthy E., Martyn Bennett, Gigi, Rokia Traore et al) because it all gets a bit predictable, suspect you weren't thinking of any of those?
        The list is still a bit light on Americana & Ingerland - does that matter? Then there's the time aspect - how far back do we go?

        All these questions, so many answers.

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        • Lateralthinking1

          Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
          Thanks for the BD (and other) tracks in my inbox JC. I never listen to his stuff so I tend to enjoy his work when it is actually pointed out...hmm, that almost makes sense.

          Lat- I feel under some pressure now to double guess some entries. I'm holding off on my usual suspects (Messrs Carthy E., Martyn Bennett, Gigi, Rokia Traore et al) because it all gets a bit predictable, suspect you weren't thinking of any of those?
          The list is still a bit light on Americana & Ingerland - does that matter? Then there's the time aspect - how far back do we go?

          All these questions, so many answers.
          Global - I thought that you would put in Arto Tunçboyacıyan and Natacha Atlas and possibly Femi and/or Seun Kuti? I know that Rokia Traore is due, possibly Buika, and there was, I think, a Hawaiian there very early on who is not there now. There's also Bassekou Kouyate and Ngoni Ba and Diblo, solo. I tend to associate those more with Paul and Charlie.

          You must do as you wish including on Americana and Ingerland. The last thing I would want is any sense of compulsion but I have more spare time. It would be a pity if later any of us thought "oh of course, how could we have left that one out?" I am particularly keen to add Arto and Natacha if you would prefer not to choose them but I will wait to see what happens!

          On "how far back do we go?", I don't have any cut-off point as such and think the history is mostly for the good. There is though a lot to be said for including many that are in the here and now or thereabouts. After all, the person who will receive this list is a current attender of gigs and it keeps things fresh. That seems to have happened anyway and is ongoing.

          But please do exactly as you wish. Spontaneity still works best, even if it is likely that this is the end game.

          John - Thank you for Bob Dylan's 'Tempest' and the very amusing Lord Invader song.

          Generally, I have now added the following to the excellent recent selections of Musafir (JC) and Solomon Linda's Original Evening Birds (GT). These clips are visually quite low key and are included in case anyone who is interested doesn't have Spotify:

          Ry Cooder, The Chieftains and Lila Downs - La Iguana - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J15xkZ3rok
          Mario Bauza and His Afro-Cuban Jazz Orchestra - Son Cubano - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=873r2DAlalg
          Amalia Rodrigues - Tudo Isto é Fado - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-RPSLN0AsE

          I have also added Vusi Mahlasela's "Wisdom of Forgiveness" - http://open.spotify.com/track/1we3dOhAQEpK7JAn6PKoVU
          Last edited by Guest; 16-11-12, 11:56.

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          • Globaltruth
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            Yes of course you had guessed correctly - Natacha was on the 'too predictable' pile & I'd listened to the Kuti boys but couldn't decide on an appropriate track. So I'll lob the ball back to you on those 3 and wait with ears cocked as to who you plump for....I believe this is known as a cop out in certain circles, but you've also correctly spotted that I'm currently busy. Free time booked for Sunday though. :-)

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            • Lateralthinking1

              Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
              Yes of course you had guessed correctly - Natacha was on the 'too predictable' pile & I'd listened to the Kuti boys but couldn't decide on an appropriate track. So I'll lob the ball back to you on those 3 and wait with ears cocked as to who you plump for....I believe this is known as a cop out in certain circles, but you've also correctly spotted that I'm currently busy. Free time booked for Sunday though. :-)
              OK fine. There are options for John too. You are almost certainly going to get "Aqaba" if it is my choice!

              You also write of the comparatively recent. That is worth bearing in mind. Much as my instinct is to avoid the principal production techniques of this millennium, I have always been prepared to give ground where that is possible. You will appreciate that I am very far from being a musical purist and I do think even now that having some commercial instinct is useful. The alternative is to become overly ghettoised and separated from what clearly appeals to half of the world's population.

              With that in mind, when we did that marathon list of political songs, I went out of my way to listen to a wide range of hip hop with a political edge. Many of the key records in recent political struggle, from Eastern Europe to the Middle East, have been in that category. Similarly, I might grit my teeth as the wonderful voice of Teddy Afro is distorted in the electronic distortion of Cher's 'Believe'. As soon as I hear something like "400 Fikir", I am keen to take elements of his work on board.

              And I was determined to have something suitable from Israel. Call it bloody-minded. Music is for people. Mainly it isn't about regimes. Obviously I hovered over Oi Va Voi as it has that current idea of an R and B vocal. However, she does have a great voice and she measures it so well, placing it just jazz side. It has the world music elements of his voice and some strong instrumentation. The message is pretty good too, albeit slightly opaque. Clearly they merit inclusion as a class act.

              Which brings me to another hover. To Ojos de Brujo or not? I was minded to think not as they do such a lot of things. Some are very pleasing. Others are a bit cheap. But given your point about currency, I have reviewed this one. The following clip has all of the usual clutter and when it has finished there are the same old doubts. Nevertheless, what strikes me is that it does have a real energy. The excitement levels are spot on. So it is a "just yes" at 130 to style-flamenco, rapping and kitchen sink:

              Ojos de Brujo - Todo Tiende - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxCM7...eature=related
              Last edited by Guest; 16-11-12, 14:08.

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              • Lateralthinking1

                ............So the hesitation was worth it. We got something less obvious than 'Aqaba'. Thanks Global.

                Anderson was very nearly offered 'Ta-Hu-Wa-Hu-Wa-I' by Andy Iona - early 1930s? - but Joseph Spence from John is not a million miles away and is certainly more apt.

                Have two tracks disappeared since this morning? Yes they have! Eliza Carthy and a deep Blue something. Confusing.

                I had "segwayed" Ngoni Ba too. Oh well!

                My selections this Saturday morning include two very good clips of live performances. All are "jamming":

                Bassekou Kouyate and Ngoni Ba - Ladon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19xfvgcXg2o
                Seun Kuti and Egypt 80 - Mosquito Song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I7zEpzFa1g
                Leonard Dembo - Chitekete - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzsiu...eature=related
                Hugh Masekela and the Union of South Africa - Dyambo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKP-OiMFNT4

                (and who ever would have thought that Tamla Motown could (be) feature(d)!)

                ........and so to Sunday morning, easy like:

                Gal Costa and Caetano Veloso - Coração Vagabundo- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wahK_MBI2hY
                Ibrahim Ferrer - Ay Candela - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwwDDtoWBD8
                Sotiria Bellou - Antilaloune ta Vouna - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5NlJv97Ws
                Os Cempés - A Micaela - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgPU_DQBKLw
                Last edited by Guest; 18-11-12, 07:28.

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                • Globaltruth
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  For those of you of a festive bent, don't forget our old chum

                  spotify:user:trautigan:playlist:2qs3T4WolgGEK9RBw727PP
                  or the same but in urL speak


                  what I suggest is that we keep it to 1001 so it's a pruning/amend/replace job.

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                  • johncorrigan
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 10363

                    Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                    For those of you of a festive bent, don't forget our old chum

                    what I suggest is that we keep it to 1001 so it's a pruning/amend/replace job.
                    On my way, Global....can't believe John Prune wasn't there - I mean Prine!
                    Last edited by johncorrigan; 05-12-12, 22:32. Reason: ...is now!

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                    • Lateralthinking1

                      Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                      what I suggest is that we keep it to 1001 so it's a pruning/amend/replace job.
                      Good to see it back even if the same can't yet be said of Christmas. I planted and pruned last night. While I added 30, the overall figure is probably lower than when I started. What you have there is a spooky little Christmas programme within the overall list.
                      Last edited by Guest; 07-12-12, 00:09.

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                      • Lateralthinking1

                        ........I have removed quite a lot of my previous ones this week, either because they are not so good or didn't seem wholly relevant. More broadly, I have removed duplicates from the list although I don't claim to have spotted them all.

                        I think we started with 980 something. If so, we have together lost 80 odd and added about 100. The total is currently 998.
                        Last edited by Guest; 09-12-12, 08:51.

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                        • Globaltruth
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                          ........I have removed quite a lot of my previous ones this week, either because they are not so good or didn't seem wholly relevant. More broadly, I have removed duplicates from the list although I don't claim to have spotted them all.

                          I think we started with 980 something. If so, we have together lost 80 odd and added about 100. The total is currently 998.
                          did you know that particular playlist has 14 subscribers (?) - I think it is one of our most popular ever...so good work Lat. I'm wondering about removing some of the complete albums (Sufjan et al) and just try and pick the best tracks...

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                          • Lateralthinking1

                            Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                            did you know that particular playlist has 14 subscribers (?) - I think it is one of our most popular ever...so good work Lat. I'm wondering about removing some of the complete albums (Sufjan et al) and just try and pick the best tracks...
                            Amazing isn't it. Good team work. No less than five contributors!

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                            • johncorrigan
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                              No less than five contributors!
                              Yes indeed...pops mcgrooger always came up with some very fine pieces in there.

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                              • Globaltruth
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                Yes. I've just been savaging the list - back to 907. Scope for improvement...

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