Prom 62: Berliner Philharmoniker and Kirill Petrenko – Mahler’s Seventh (3.09.22)

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Prom 62: Berliner Philharmoniker and Kirill Petrenko – Mahler’s Seventh (3.09.22)

    19:00 Saturday 3 September 2022
    Royal Albert Hall

    Gustav Mahler: Symphony No. 7 in E minor

    Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
    Kirill Petrenko conductor

    Some would call the Berliner Philharmoniker the finest orchestra in the world, but one thing’s for certain: whenever it visits the Proms under its Chief Conductor Kirill Petrenko, it’s always a night to remember. In the first of two concerts in the 2022 BBC Proms, the orchestra performs just one work: the symphony that Mahler called his ‘song of the night’. Every Mahler symphony is an emotional journey; but this one sweeps from an overcast Alpine lake through love songs, nightmares and nocturnal marches to an ear-splitting finish along with jangling cowbells and laced with pitch-black humour. Expect grandeur, beauty and piercing insight from one of the 21st century’s most acclaimed musical partnerships.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 26-08-22, 18:57.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    Originally posted by BBC Guff Machine
    Some would call the Berliner Philharmoniker the finest orchestra in the world, but one thing’s for certain: whenever it visits the Proms under its Chief Conductor Kirill Petrenko, it’s always a night to remember.
    And just how many times has the BPO visited the Proms with this conductor?
    2018, I think, was the only occasion.

    But sadly, he's not doing the second concert with the Berliners this year.

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    • Prommer
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1258

      #3
      Will KP be able to 'make sense' of this symphony?

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      • Keraulophone
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        • Nov 2010
        • 1945

        #4
        Guff: "it’s always a night to remember"

        I don't know about always, but I can honestly still sense the thrill and excitement generated by their Beethoven 7 on their previous visit to the Proms.

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        • Keraulophone
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          • Nov 2010
          • 1945

          #5
          Originally posted by Prommer View Post
          Will KP be able to 'make sense' of this symphony?
          Presumably he thought he could make better sense of it than Daniel Harding.
          .

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          • Prommer
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            Yes, Daniel not entrusted with this, just the Bruckie.

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Apparently, following his foot accident, Petrenko has been ordered by his doctors to rest, hence he's only conducting this concert.

              Conducting Mahler 7 in Berlin, London, Salzburg and Lucerne - some rest!
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • smittims
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                • Aug 2022
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                #8
                I liked Petrenko's Elgar Symphonies, so I'm looking forward to his Mahler7.

                This is still, I think, the least popular of Mahler's symphonies, despite its appearance in a 'Castrol' advert; though interestingly it had its British premiere as early as 1913, under Henry Wood, no less.

                Many of us will have heard the BPO play it in Claudio Abbado's 2001 recording which was chosen in a poll for Deutsche Grammophon's 'People's edition'.

                With age, one comes to prefer a dry wine to a sweet, an understated decor to a colourful. In the same way, I've come gradually to prefer Mahler's seventh to his more-obviously-attractive Fifth or Eighth. How about you?

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                • ucanseetheend
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  "the least popular" ? Who says. The 2nd and 8th take that accolade. Mahler was in his prime with 5 ,6& 7
                  "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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                  • Petrushka
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ucanseetheend View Post
                    The 2nd and 8th take that accolade.
                    Who says?
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      I saw a recent Twitter poll inviting the selection of three most favourite Mahler symphonies. Choices were remarkably even between all of them.

                      Number 7 fared well.

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                      • ucanseetheend
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                        Who says?
                        Have a guess ?
                        "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
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                          • Apr 2014
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          I saw a recent Twitter poll inviting the selection of three most favourite Mahler symphonies. Choices were remarkably even between all of them.

                          Number 7 fared well.
                          Interesting - maybe that’s the cognoscenti! I don’t think , if you do a performance count it’s as frequently performed as 1 , 4,5,6 and 9 . Maybe more that 2 and 8 but they are special cases . I wonder if “night music” works make the same impact in the concert hall. There’s also the rather odd final movement which I rather like. Isn’t it also full of musical in-jokes ? I can’t remember ever seeing a live performance whereas I’ve heard all the others.

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                          • Bryn
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                            • Mar 2007
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ucanseetheend View Post
                            Have a guess ?
                            Surely not the renowned conductor William Havagest, whose surname is often misspelt?

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              Interesting - maybe that’s the cognoscenti! I don’t think , if you do a performance count it’s as frequently performed as 1 , 4,5,6 and 9 . Maybe more that 2 and 8 but they are special cases . I wonder if “night music” works make the same impact in the concert hall. There’s also the rather odd final movement which I rather like. Isn’t it also full of musical in-jokes ? I can’t remember ever seeing a live performance whereas I’ve heard all the others.
                              When I was first getting to know Mahler’s works Syms 1 and 4 were the most popular - I think very much because they were short enough to fit on one LP and there were excellent affordable recordings available.

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