Prom 36: Marin Alsop conducts the Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra (13.08.22)

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Prom 36: Marin Alsop conducts the Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra (13.08.22)

    19:30 Saturday 13 August 2022 ON TV
    Royal Albert Hall

    Béla Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin – suite
    Sergei Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 3 in C major
    Hannah Eisendle: Heliosis (UK première)
    Antonín Dvořák: Symphony No. 7 in D minor


    Benjamin Grosvenor piano
    Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra
    Marin Alsop conductor

    Viennese orchestral playing is a byword for excellence, rooted in generations of tradition. But under its distinguished (and adventurous) American Music Director Marin Alsop, the Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra takes that tradition as a starting point to look outwards – to explore. Bartók’s bloodcurdling ballet suite prepares the way for Prokofiev’s Third Piano Concerto: energising, unsentimental brilliance, brought to life by former BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artist Benjamin Grosvenor. And then, two very different facets of the Central European tradition: the windswept drama and dancing Bohemian melodies of Dvořák’s magnificent Seventh Symphony, and the UK premiere of Heliosis – written specially for Alsop and the Vienna RSO by a young Viennese composer with a flair for drama.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 09-08-22, 15:21.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    Originally posted by BBC L-plate holder
    Viennese orchestral playing is a byword for excellence, rooted in generations of tradition.
    I think that's a different orchestra.

    But that needn’t demean this one.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 10-08-22, 06:41.

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    • edashtav
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      • Jul 2012
      • 3670

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      I think that's a different orchestra.

      But that needed demean this one.
      Ha ha.

      I’ve listened to Hannah Eisendle’s Heliosis on Youtube in a transcription of its f.p. by the same forces in March:



      It’s about 6.5 minutes in length and mainly a study in rhythm and texture. Harmless, and mildly engaging.

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      • richardfinegold
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        • Sep 2012
        • 7657

        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        19:30 Saturday 13 August 2022 ON TV
        Royal Albert Hall

        Béla Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin – suite
        Sergei Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 3 in C major
        Hannah Eisendle: Heliosis (UK première)
        Antonín Dvořák: Symphony No. 7 in D minor


        Benjamin Grosvenor piano
        Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra
        Marin Alsop conductor

        Viennese orchestral playing is a byword for excellence, rooted in generations of tradition. But under its distinguished (and adventurous) American Music Director Marin Alsop, the Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra takes that tradition as a starting point to look outwards – to explore. Bartók’s bloodcurdling ballet suite prepares the way for Prokofiev’s Third Piano Concerto: energising, unsentimental brilliance, brought to life by former BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artist Benjamin Grosvenor. And then, two very different facets of the Central European tradition: the windswept drama and dancing Bohemian melodies of Dvořák’s magnificent Seventh Symphony, and the UK premiere of Heliosis – written specially for Alsop and the Vienna RSO by a young Viennese composer with a flair for drama.
        I have both Alsops Mandarin and Dvorak Seven on Blu Ray Audio discs. Great sounding dull performances

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        • edashtav
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          • Jul 2012
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          #5
          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
          I have both Alsops Mandarin and Dvorak Seven on Blu Ray Audio discs. Great sounding dull performances
          I’m afraid that Dvorak’s D minor symphony is not a favourite of mine: it’s sombre tone coupled to a form that is a model of rule taking but so low on naughty excursions plus its excessive obeisance to Brahms makes it a piece that I conscously avoid.

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          • Master Jacques
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            • Feb 2012
            • 1881

            #6
            Originally posted by edashtav View Post
            I’m afraid that Dvorak’s D minor symphony is not a favourite of mine: it’s sombre tone coupled to a form that is a model of rule taking but so low on naughty excursions plus its excessive obeisance to Brahms makes it a piece that I conscously avoid.
            I know what you mean ... it can seem a slightly, safe fustian piece these days. Though when poor old Dvorak did make "naughty excursions" in his (staggering) 8th Symphony, he was criticised for deviating from "the tradition"! As for the 7th, I'm sure you've tried Harnoncourt's approach to freshening it up?

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            • edashtav
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              • Jul 2012
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              #7
              Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
              I know what you mean ... it can seem a slightly, safe fustian piece these days. Though when poor old Dvorak did make "naughty excursions" in his (staggering) 8th Symphony, he was criticised for deviating from "the tradition"! As for the 7th, I'm sure you've tried Harnoncourt's approach to freshening it up?
              No, I’ve not encountered Harnoncourt’s version. In fact, it’s failed to register on my radar. I hope to make amends. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

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              • bluestateprommer
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3008

                #8
                BB's MM just completed. In keeping with RF's comment above, the Vienna RSO is certainly on fine form, but Marin Alsop kind of played it safe with her reading here. Nice of Ian Skelly to give the organist a shout-out. (Wonder if the Vienna RSO Konzertmeister was made aware in advance of the "Heave! Ho!" and applause after the A traditions.)

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                • edashtav
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                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3670

                  #9
                  I felt that Marin had rehearsed the Bartok rebarbative Suite to within an inch of the Mandarin’s life. Speeds were often plodding, perhaps to allow her orchestra a safety margin, room to negotiate the tricky bits. It was good but not excellent.
                  Last edited by edashtav; 13-08-22, 18:59. Reason: Typo

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                  • Alison
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Phenomenal pianism here and no safety margins!

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                    • Joseph K
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                      • Oct 2017
                      • 7765

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alison View Post
                      Phenomenal pianism here.

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
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                        • Apr 2014
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        Phenomenal pianism here and no safety margins!
                        That first movement was absolutely staggering.The band could barely keep up. The crispness of Ben’s articulation in those scales and then the sudden transitions in touch.

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                        • Joseph K
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                          • Oct 2017
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                          #13
                          Hints of Scriabin in this slow movement, very sensuous (first time listening to this piece).

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                          • bluestateprommer
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            Phenomenal pianism here and no safety margins!
                            Indeed, and BG's choice of Ravel encore is very appropriate here. Fine support from the Vienna RSO and Alsop in Prokofiev 3, where they did manage to keep up :) .

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
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                              • Apr 2014
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                              #15
                              Jeu D’Eaux as an encore strikes me as both generous and appropriate….
                              Whatever happened to the arena fountain?

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