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  • mrbouffant
    Full Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 207

    #31
    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
    Prom 6 for me:

    Ralph Vaughan Williams
    Symphony No. 4 in F minor (30 mins)

    Michael Tippett
    Symphony No. 4 (33 mins)

    BBC Philharmonic
    Omer Meir Wellber conductor

    But at only just over an hour's worth of music (never mind the quality.....) I certainly wouldn't make the trip.
    Yes, gone are the days when we'd get three RVW symphonies in one concert!

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    • EnemyoftheStoat
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1132

      #32
      Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
      I might have been attracted by the Four Last Songs but on the two occasions I've been, its come over as underpowered - even with fully competent artists. Perhaps it doesn't work there unless the Soprano has a voice to match Flagstad?
      One reason why the arena is the best place to listen from.

      Relocation from SE4 to SP2 means it will be very much pick and choose here. Pre-Covid, attendance was limited by how many rehearsals got in the way of gigs; that's not so much a problem now, as our current outfit has one prom, but that will mean serious travelling costs. At least it's a substantial work.

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      • Bert Coules
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 763

        #33
        Is there a way of searching the BBC Proms site by composer? I seem to remember this problem happening on previous years, too.

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        • Norrette
          Full Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 157

          #34
          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post


          Mahler 2 [OK - there's also Mahler 7 - but that's not on the same plane
          and Benjamin Grosvenor doing Prokofiev 3 could be spectacular. Having Dvorak 7 and the Miraculous Mandarin [to start? a bit exciting ....!!!!] in the same concert seems like a bonus.
          Oh - almost missed out Dausgaard's Nielsen.
          As the Rattle Mahler 2 is on the telly I removed it from my planner...I can sense it might go back on, along with Prok 3 & Dvorak 7 (never heard the Mandarin) Perhaps I should blow everything and make it my last ever prom? Until I see next years programme...

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30254

            #35
            Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
            Is there a way of searching the BBC Proms site by composer? I seem to remember this problem happening on previous years, too.
            Don't know about the BBC site, but Andrew's just posted one-page listing does that: search the page for the composer's name and at the bottom (below the concerts) there's the A-Z listing of composers and the works to be performed.

            Haha - just pipped Andrew at the post!
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Andrew Slater
              Full Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1790

              #36
              Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
              Is there a way of searching the BBC Proms site by composer? I seem to remember this problem happening on previous years, too.
              This seems to be working now - it didn't seem to be yesterday. (The link is buried at the bottom of the main Proms page, under 'Composers & Works'.)
              Last edited by Andrew Slater; 27-04-22, 09:22. Reason: Added quote of original post

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              • Bert Coules
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 763

                #37
                Andrew, thanks for your own listing. On the BBC site do you mean this page? I can't see a "Composers & Works" link there, I'm afraid.

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/proms


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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12241

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Prom 6 for me:

                  Ralph Vaughan Williams
                  Symphony No. 4 in F minor (30 mins)

                  Michael Tippett
                  Symphony No. 4 (33 mins)

                  BBC Philharmonic
                  Omer Meir Wellber conductor

                  But at only just over an hour's worth of music (never mind the quality.....) I certainly wouldn't make the trip.
                  My first thought on seeing this was; 'Surely, that's not the whole programme'?

                  There's an ideal place to put a Birtwistle piece in as a starter. I'd suggest Ritual Fragment.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • LHC
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1556

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    My first thought on seeing this was; 'Surely, that's not the whole programme'?

                    There's an ideal place to put a Birtwistle piece in as a starter. I'd suggest Ritual Fragment.
                    The LSO and Rattle are the only ones to have programmed any Birtwistle, and even then its only 4 minutes long.
                    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                    Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30254

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
                      Andrew, thanks for your own listing. On the BBC site do you mean this page? I can't see a "Composers & Works" link there, I'm afraid.

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/proms


                      I don't think Andrew's link is working. I posted the link just before him in #35

                      Not sure if Index of Works (with A-Z of composers) and Index of Performers are supposed to be links, but they aren't at at the moment. Search on the word Index to go to them.
                      Last edited by french frank; 27-04-22, 09:50.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Andrew Slater
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1790

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
                        On the BBC site do you mean this page? I can't see a "Composers & Works" link there, I'm afraid.

                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/proms


                        Neither can I, now! I think I had only gone back one stage from the Composers & Works page to look for the link: it's actually a two-stage process from the bottom of the page you quote, via the "Proms performance archive" link, which takes you to the page which contains the "Composers & Works" link. I'm sorry for misleading you. (I hope there won't be an inquiry...)

                        However, the link which I posted should take you straight there.

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                        • Andrew Slater
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1790

                          #42
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          I don't think Andrew's link is working. I posted the link just before him in #35
                          The link I posted should take you to the BBC Proms Composer index - it works here. Please let me know if it doesn't work and I'll investigate.

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Not sure if Index of Works (with A-Z of composers) and Index of Performers are supposed to be links, but they aren't at at the moment. Search on the word Index to go to them.
                          The Index of Works and Index of Performers in my listing should link back to the entries in the listing itself (by clicking on the blue concert title on the right). Clicking on the blue concert title heading in the main listing should link to the relevant BBC Proms page. Again, please let me know if this isn't the case - I've only tried it on one browser.

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                          • Bert Coules
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 763

                            #43
                            Andrew, thanks for that. But I obviously didn't make my original question clear: I was asking if there was an alphabetical composer guide specifically to this year's season, not to the entire archive.

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                            • Andrew Slater
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1790

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
                              Andrew, thanks for that. But I obviously didn't make my original question clear: I was asking if there was an alphabetical composer guide specifically to this year's season, not to the entire archive.
                              As far as I'm aware there isn't such a guide just for the current year on the BBC Proms site. You could try this, as mentioned above by FF, but with the caution that it's dependent on my code working properly...

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                              • Bert Coules
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 763

                                #45
                                Am I the only one who finds the absence of such a search facility surprising (to put it mildly)? Does the R3 audience really care more about who is appearing than what works are being played?

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