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  • bluestateprommer
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3009

    #16
    Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
    From a first glance, this summer's Proms looks like a pretty good season, to my outsider's eye, even without the extraordinarily challenging circumstances of the pandemic. Clearly not all the details are there yet for each concert, as many of the program listings look quite short and incomplete so far (e.g. the First Night, Pat Kop / BBC SSO / Dausgaard on 28 August). The emphasis is understandably on native UK talent, given the other you-know-what aspect of the double-whammy reality imposing limits on bringing in artists based on the continent (e.g. Latry, Gabetta, Storgards, besides PK & Dausgaard, and Dalia S., where Andrew Clements called it correctly for her getting the First Night).

    Also, more on the admin side, and perhaps tilting at windmills given that probably almost no one reads the Forum Calendar besides me: the Forum Calendar is not set up to accept entries for the year 2021, as the available years are currently limited to 2010-2020. (In other words, nothing post-2020 can be entered at all yet.) Can this be fixed? If so, I can start working on the Forum Calendar after that adjustment is made. But if not, then one less thing to worry about. This obviously does not affect Andrew Slater's one-page files, to be sure.
    Last edited by bluestateprommer; 27-05-21, 05:22.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25209

      #17
      the Malcolm Arnold symphony should make a great programme with the Walton Viola Concerto. But, at the risk of grumbling, that is a very short concert indeed, as so many seem to be.

      I'll definitely be hoping to get there in any case, as opportunities to hear Arnold are so thin on the ground.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26533

        #18
        Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
        Clearly not all the details are there yet for each concert
        Amusing way of dealing with the ‘don’t have a clue yet’ evenings:



        - turn ‘em into an exciting new brand!
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8460

          #19
          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
          Amusing way of dealing with the ‘don’t have a clue yet’ evenings:



          - turn ‘em into an exciting new brand!
          To be performed by Mystery Players - including some from York?

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22119

            #20
            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
            Amusing way of dealing with the ‘don’t have a clue yet’ evenings:



            - turn ‘em into an exciting new brand!
            My money’s on them being ‘Dumbdowners’. Cynical moi?

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8782

              #21
              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              My money’s on them being ‘Dumbdowners’. Cynical moi?
              Always cloughers

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11680

                #22
                Looks like Beethoven 9 is in a mystery Prom I assume.

                The LPO/Jurowski Prom looks a highlight . The blurb appears to have been written largely by a nincompoop - apparently Nicola Benedetti is joining an orchestra for the Eroica and Sheku Kanneh Mason playing Dvorak’s Cello Concerto No 1 - no he isn’t - it’s the B minor one !

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26533

                  #23
                  Good to see that the Santtu-Matias Rouvali / Vikingur Ólafsson prom will be televised.... ditto, the Korngold F sharp major symphony and Ruth Gipps’s second symphony.

                  And yes, Oramo tackling Arnold’s fifth is a tempting prospect
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Petrushka
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12247

                    #24
                    Good to have the Proms back but at first glance I'm afraid there's little there to make me want to travel down to South Kensington.

                    I think it more likely that the 'Mystery Proms' will be the more interesting ones. Given the difficulties in bringing in overseas orchestras due to Covid and Brexit, I'm guessing that the vacant spaces could be filled by US or European ensembles.

                    Where, in any case, are booking details? Proms Planner? Might be better to sit it out for another year.
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • EnemyoftheStoat
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1132

                      #25
                      Given the amount of TBC in the schedule, I hope they didn't charge full whack for the guide.

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                      • Richard Barrett
                        Guest
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 6259

                        #26
                        A new orchestral work by George Lewis is something I'll be looking forward to, and Rattle conducting Stravinsky maybe, the rest seems pretty run of the mill to me.

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                        • Darkbloom
                          Full Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 706

                          #27
                          Unless I misread it, it appears that day-promming tickets are going to be online only. That's assuming that there will even be promming in any recognisable form. So that means we all have to pay the booking fee.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37678

                            #28
                            And I wonder why so many of the concerts are so short? Might it be that the organisers think that the shorter the time in the enclosed spaces, the less the virus spread? If so, Tristan & Isolde lovers are being discriminated against in a big way!

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25209

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              And I wonder why so many of the concerts are so short? Might it be that the organisers think that the shorter the time in the enclosed spaces, the less the virus spread? If so, Tristan & Isolde lovers are being discriminated against in a big way!
                              Been this way for a while , S-A

                              And some might say it is a manifestation of a London- centric world view. Even for people like me who are less than 2 hours from the RAH, it is a long round trip for an hours music.
                              I had the same beef with Siouxsie and the Banshees back in the day.....
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Edgy 2
                                Guest
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 2035

                                #30
                                Arnold 5 and Gipps 2 stand out, not much else for me.
                                We are in London for the Eagles at Wembley 29/8 and Joseph at the Palladium on 27/8 (SWMBO's bag, not mine ) events that should have taken place last year.
                                Of course sod's law has the Arnold on 27/8 so might have to see if we can swap the Joseph tickets for the 28th maybe.
                                All assuming everything goes ahead as planned.
                                “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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