Prom 20 (17.08.21) - The Manchester Collective

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Prom 20 (17.08.21) - The Manchester Collective

    19:30 Tuesday 17 August 2021
    Royal Albert Hall

    Henryk Mikołaj Górecki: Harpsichord Concerto, Op. 40
    Edmund Finnis: The Centre is Everywhere
    Julius Eastman: The Holy Presence of Joan d'Arc
    Dobrinka Tabakova: Suite in Old Style, ‘The Court Jester Amareu’
    Joseph Horowitz: Jazz Harpsichord Concerto


    Mahan Esfahani harpsichord
    Manchester Collective
    Rakhi Singh violin/director

    Fresh from the release of its debut recording, the dynamic Manchester Collective makes its first appearance at the Proms with a programme that draws on the musical past to help imagine a bold musical future. Award-winning harpsichordist Mahan Esfahani explodes stereotypes around his instrument in concertos by Joseph Horovitz and Górecki – the former a witty fusion of jazz colours and textures with Classical forms, the latter a musical ‘prank’, motoric and defiantly playful. Also looking back to the 18th century is Dobrinka Tabakova’s Suite in Old Style – a musical homage to Rameau (alias Amareu) that blends folk and Baroque details in its five contrasting movements. The concert also includes music by the black American avant-garde post- Minimalist and gay activist Julius Eastman and Novello Award-nominated composer Edmund Finnis.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 16-08-21, 13:11.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    Mahan Esfahani does seem to have a high profile at present.
    It's very interesting to have modern harpsichord works, though I'm never quite sure about an instrument without any dynamic range.

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #3
      The Gorecki is a great start here - the rest a true adventure into the unknown for me!

      After two Proms I can't do much with, I'll have a good go at this one...

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      • jayne lee wilson
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        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        #4
        This ECM Tabakova album, including the Suite in tonight's program, was released to many glowing reviews....

        Listen to unlimited or download Dobrinka Tabakova: String Paths by Lithuanian Chamber Orchestra in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.


        ....playing now..... some very appealing music here.....do try it...
        CD widely available.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37711

          #5
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          This ECM Tabakova album, including the Suite in tonight's program, was released to many glowing reviews....

          Listen to unlimited or download Dobrinka Tabakova: String Paths by Lithuanian Chamber Orchestra in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.


          ....playing now..... some very appealing music here.....do try it...
          CD widely available.
          Thanks jayne - tempted to listen to those samples as I am, I shall instead suspend impatience in readiness for tonight's concert, which looks to be quite possibly the most intriguing of the season.

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          • kernelbogey
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5755

            #6
            I had to switch off immediately because of the presenter, whose verbal ticks I simply cannot stand. My loss, I know.

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            • Tony Halstead
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1717

              #7
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              Mahan Esfahani does seem to have a high profile at present.
              It's very interesting to have modern harpsichord works, though I'm never quite sure about an instrument without any dynamic range.
              Mahan owns and plays a superb and unique harpsichord that does indeed possess a dynamic range.

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              • bluestateprommer
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3010

                #8
                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                I had to switch off immediately because of the presenter, whose verbal ticks I simply cannot stand. My loss, I know.
                Elizabeth Alker can bury the needle on the gush meter, but please tune back in anyway, because of the high level of music-making involved here. The representative of Manchester Collective is kind of taking over the gush factor from EA, but he's on stage for it, at least.

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                • DracoM
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 12978

                  #9
                  It's pretentious rubbish
                  So far.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6798

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    It's pretentious rubbish
                    So far.
                    Ooh I’m quite enjoying it !

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #11
                      What an utterly thrilling, compelling sequence in Part One, with string playing of electrifying beauty and intensity, and Esfahani’s manic, pounding harpsichord, we adventured far between Gorecki’s monolithic drive, through the shining radiance of Finnis’s stasis, or stases - the energies passing around all those centres - to the pounding bases of what Szabo described as the “70s or 80s rock and roll”, (referencing Zappa) of Julius Eastman, whose Holy Presence of Joan d’Arc, which sounded to me more like minimalism on speed, and reached out, or up, for some hope of a peaceful apotheosis…..wonderful.

                      Sad to read the disproportionate comments on the presentation. This doesn't take long and the music is what matters…
                      Music longa, intro brevis, as it were… maybe just turn the level down until the piece starts…?

                      In fact, the Collective chief-exec Adam Szabo’s intros live from the stage were a model of informative clarity on the music and its background, really helping us get into each piece. Excellent!

                      ***
                      ​Mad Goreckian scramble now to feed Cats and get back to my chair later....

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
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                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6798

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        What an utterly thrilling, compelling sequence in Part One, with string playing of electrifying beauty and intensity, and Esfahani’s manic, pounding harpsichord, we adventured far between Gorecki’s monolithic drive, through the shining radiance of Finnis’s stasis, or stases - the energies passing around all those centres - to the pounding bases of what Szabo described as the “70s or 80s rock and roll”, (referencing Zappa) of Julius Eastman, whose Holy Presence of Joan d’Arc, which sounded to me more like minimalism on speed, and reached out, or up, for some hope of a peaceful apotheosis…..wonderful.

                        Sad to read the disproportionate comments on the presentation. This doesn't take long and the music is what matters…
                        Music longa, intro brevis, as it were… maybe just turn the level down until the piece starts…?

                        In fact, the Collective chief-exec Adam Szabo’s intros live from the stage were a model of informative clarity on the music and its background, really helping us get into each piece. Excellent!

                        Agreed also for those of us who find North West accents not merely acceptable but appealing the interval feature is very informative !

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                          Agreed also for those of us who find North West accents not merely acceptable but appealing the interval feature is very informative !
                          You should hear me when I'm excited!

                          Yes, from what I heard of it whilst distributing Catfood (radios-all-over-the-house etc) a lively dialogue on Manchester's own rich history of nurturing toward new music, Birtwistle and Max Davies etc., even including the final section of Worldes Blis....!
                          Radio 3 at its best....

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                          • kernelbogey
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5755

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                            Agreed also for those of us who find North West accents not merely acceptable but appealing the interval feature is very informative !
                            This particular presenter raises hackles not because of the accent (at least with me) but with overall style, verbal ticks, and a patronising tone - all of which could be adjusted by training.

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                              This particular presenter raises hackles not because of the accent (at least with me) but with overall style, verbal ticks, and a patronising tone - all of which could be adjusted by training.
                              "Adjusted by Training" ....What a truly terrifying thought.....
                              They tried to do that to me at school. I kept running home in tears...

                              Such a shame we can't all sound like Patricia Hughes or Alvar Liddell, isn't it?
                              Still, if Fr Cormac Rigby had been presenting this wonderful Prom, there would have been a certain unintentional hilarity about the culture clash...
                              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 18-08-21, 02:52.

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