Prom 9 (6.08.21) - The BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra Celebrates Stravinsky

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    Prom 9 (6.08.21) - The BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra Celebrates Stravinsky

    19:30 Friday 6 August 2021
    Royal Albert Hall

    Giovanni Battista Pergolesi: Stabat mater
    Igor Stravinsky: Pulcinella


    Carolyn Sampson, soprano
    Tim Mead, counter-tenor
    Benjamin Hulett, tenor
    Simon Shibambu, bass-baritone
    BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra
    Martyn Brabbins, conductor

    Can a composer reuse the past and at the same time move in a forward direction? It’s the question that goes to the heart of Igor Stravinsky’s music - works that often take their inspiration from historical models but remain defiantly, distinctively modern. Conductor Martyn Brabbins joins the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra to mark the 50th anniversary of Stravinsky’s death with a concert pairing the composer’s ballet Pulcinella – a witty, charming take on Baroque dance and commedia dell’arte – with the heart-rending Stabat mater by Pergolesi, whose music inspired it.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 02-08-21, 11:24.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • jayne lee wilson
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      • Jul 2011
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      #3
      Utterly gorgeous Pergolesi Stabat Mater from the BBC Scottish Baroque and Martyn Brabbins, who drew a sound of vibrato-lite precision and purity from his strings.
      Swooningly seductive vocals from two perfectly matched soloists, soaringly operatic where apt, touchingly sensitive when hushed. Flushed cheeks and racing hearts in the sacristi.......
      The singers were naturally balanced with the orchestra, though on the live webcast I found them a little fierce on peaks. Some on-the-fly upsampling helped here...
      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 07-08-21, 01:23.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
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        #4
        Tremendous performance of a superb score following that beautiful Stabat Mater earlier. Also a good interval feature with a expert whose somewhat eccentric unpolished style I very much warm to.

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        • LMcD
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          #5
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Utterly gorgeous Pergolesi Stabat Mater from the BBC Scottish Baroque and Martyn Brabbins, who drew a sound of vibrato-lite precision and purity from his strings.
          Swooningly seductive vocals from two perfectly matched soloists, soaringly operatic where apt, touchingly sensitive when hushed. Flushed cheeks and racing hearts in the sacristi.......
          The singers were naturally balanced with the orchestra, though on the live webcast I found them a little fierce on peaks. Some on-the-fly upsampling helped a bit...
          Was ist das, bitte?

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          • jayne lee wilson
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            • Jul 2011
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            #6
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            Was ist das, bitte?
            To upsample is to use a higher audio samples-per-second rate than the native one, i.e. the one being broadcast, which for the AAC stream is 48khz. I've noticed before that 96khz can subtly calm any subjectively perceived treble excesses, very useful if you're as hypersensitive to upper vocal reaches as I am, especially with operatic styles. But in some cases it can sound a little too smooth.

            On-the-fly....switching while the music is running, rather than using the preset/native one.
            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 06-08-21, 21:29.

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            • Westfield999
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              #7
              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
              To upsample is to use a higher audio samples-per-second rate than the native one, i.e. the one being broadcast, which for the AAC stream is 48khz. I've noticed before that 96khz can subtly calm any subjectively perceived treble excesses, very useful if you're as hypersensitive to upper vocal reaches as I am, especially with operatic styles. But in some cases it can sound a little too smooth.

              On-the-fly....switching while the music is running, rather than using the preset/native one.
              Is there somewhere an idiot's guide to "AAC stream is 48khz" and the like? I assume it's got something to do with the sensation that I have, whether on BBC4 heard live through my satellite dish, or on iPlayer streamed on the internet, that the digitised sound has been wrung through a narrow bandwidth graphic equalizer and had a lot of the life squeezed out if it! I'd be really interested to understand it all better

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              • Bryn
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                #8
                Originally posted by Westfield999 View Post
                Is there somewhere an idiot's guide to "AAC stream is 48khz" and the like? I assume it's got something to do with the sensation that I have, whether on BBC4 heard live through my satellite dish, or on iPlayer streamed on the internet, that the digitised sound has been wrung through a narrow bandwidth graphic equalizer and had a lot of the life squeezed out if it! I'd be really interested to understand it all better
                Potential can of worms to open there. AAC stands for Advanced Audio CODEC* (CODEC itself standing for COder/DECoder and referring to the particular mode of digital representation of a given signal). Commonly encountered CODECs are mp3, FLAC, mp4 etc. From the audio point of view, AAC (which comes on two main 'flavours', LC (Low Complexity, mainly used with higher data rates) and HE (High Efficiency, mainly used for lower data rates). DAB uses mp2 (a forerunner of mp3 which is less efficient than mp3 but has greater error correction properties, so is better suited to broadcasting). There is also DAB+, which is not (yet?) used in the U.K.. That uses HE-AAC as its CODEC. The 48kHz relates to the sampling rate employed in the capture of the audio. CDs use a sample rate of 44.1 kHz, whereas 48 kHz is the standard rate for DVDs, etc. Basically, the higher the sample rate, the more accurate the reconversion to analogue for listening (there is, of course, more to it than that). All this, and more, is easily found via Internet searches.

                * Also given as "Advanced Audio Coding".
                Last edited by Bryn; 06-08-21, 22:53.

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                • jayne lee wilson
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                  • Jul 2011
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                  #9
                  PULCINELLA (COMPLETE); SOLS., BBCSSO/BRABBINS/R3 AAC 320 LIVESTREAM.
                  (Excellent engineering, airy and spacious, the small ensemble once again perfectly placed, winds vividly present, the vocalists naturally so, never too close)

                  Sometimes all you can do it sit back and admire, and marvel, and then acclaim, and maybe have a few tears.

                  An outstanding Pulcinella, and if I thought early on that these songs and dances were a little too laidback, those jack-in-the-box winds and brasses were soon jumping out at me again… aha! Just Kidding! Thats the way to do it!

                  I was
                  entranced; mesmerised by the instrumental interplay.
                  Brabbins is such a subtle and sensitive musician, alive to every bar, every shade of mood, elegy or comedy; lulling you with a caress, then letting you have it! What hilarious drunken soloists in the vivo -
                  Grog-artist buddies, tb and db, about to fall off their high stools……

                  Wonderful singing again, genuinely characterising and enacting this commedia del’amore.
                  With the Pergolesi so ravishingly chaste, this whole delightful evening felt to me like a glorious celebration of Music itself, and after a wonderful First Week of the Proms, my joyful tears at the end were truly from the heart….(or the bottom of a glass...).



                  Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 07-08-21, 02:29.

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                  • BBMmk2
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                    Utterly gorgeous Pergolesi Stabat Mater from the BBC Scottish Baroque and Martyn Brabbins, who drew a sound of vibrato-lite precision and purity from his strings.
                    Swooningly seductive vocals from two perfectly matched soloists, soaringly operatic where apt, touchingly sensitive when hushed. Flushed cheeks and racing hearts in the sacristi.......
                    The singers were naturally balanced with the orchestra, though on the live webcast I found them a little fierce on peaks. Some on-the-fly upsampling helped here...
                    Couldn’t agree more!
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • BBMmk2
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                      PULCINELLA (COMPLETE); SOLS., BBCSSO/BRABBINS/R3 AAC 320 LIVESTREAM.
                      (Excellent engineering, airy and spacious, the small ensemble once again perfectly placed, winds vividly present, the vocalists naturally so, never too close)

                      Sometimes all you can do it sit back and admire, and marvel, and then acclaim, and maybe have a few tears.

                      An outstanding Pulcinella, and if I thought early on that these songs and dances were a little too laidback, those jack-in-the-box winds and brasses were soon jumping out at me again… aha! Just Kidding! Thats the way to do it!

                      I was
                      entranced; mesmerised by the instrumental interplay.
                      Brabbins is such a subtle and sensitive musician, alive to every bar, every shade of mood, elegy or comedy; lulling you with a caress, then letting you have it! What hilarious drunken soloists in the vivo -
                      Grog-artist buddies, tb and db, about to fall off their high stools……

                      Wonderful singing again, genuinely characterising and enacting this commedia del’amore.
                      With the Pergolesi so ravishingly chaste, this whole delightful evening felt to me like a glorious celebration of Music itself, and after a wonderful First Week of the Proms, my joyful tears at the end were truly from the heart….(or the bottom of a glass...).




                      Utter,y so very marvellous performance.
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
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                        • Apr 2014
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        PULCINELLA (COMPLETE); SOLS., BBCSSO/BRABBINS/R3 AAC 320 LIVESTREAM.
                        (Excellent engineering, airy and spacious, the small ensemble once again perfectly placed, winds vividly present, the vocalists naturally so, never too close)

                        Sometimes all you can do it sit back and admire, and marvel, and then acclaim, and maybe have a few tears.

                        An outstanding Pulcinella, and if I thought early on that these songs and dances were a little too laidback, those jack-in-the-box winds and brasses were soon jumping out at me again… aha! Just Kidding! Thats the way to do it!

                        I was
                        entranced; mesmerised by the instrumental interplay.
                        Brabbins is such a subtle and sensitive musician, alive to every bar, every shade of mood, elegy or comedy; lulling you with a caress, then letting you have it! What hilarious drunken soloists in the vivo -
                        Grog-artist buddies, tb and db, about to fall off their high stools……

                        Wonderful singing again, genuinely characterising and enacting this commedia del’amore.
                        With the Pergolesi so ravishingly chaste, this whole delightful evening felt to me like a glorious celebration of Music itself, and after a wonderful First Week of the Proms, my joyful tears at the end were truly from the heart….(or the bottom of a glass...).



                        I wonder if Brabbins managed to secure extra rehearsal time? The precision of the playing in the Stravinsky was remarkable. You are right - it has been an outstanding first week with some very imaginative out-of - the -rut programming - and an intellectually demanding one - not much dumbing down in evidence.

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                        • LMcD
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                          I wonder if Brabbins managed to secure extra rehearsal time? The precision of the playing in the Stravinsky was remarkable. You are right - it has been an outstanding first week with some very imaginative out-of - the -rut programming - and an intellectually demanding one - not much dumbing down in evidence.
                          For some time I've been of the view that the BBCSSO is the best of Auntie's orchestras.

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                          • Westfield999
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                            • Aug 2021
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            For some time I've been of the view that the BBCSSO is the best of Auntie's orchestras.
                            I too have a very soft spot for the BBC SSO and I think we heard them at their very best in this concert.

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