Prom 74 (12.09.20) Last Night of the Proms

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  • Count Boso

    #16
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    LNOTP would be better off consigned to the dustbin of history IMV
    I think there would have to be some form of LNOTP, unless there was only one concert, the FandLNOTP . They could rethink what 'traditions' are worth keeping and which are now outdated. This year might be a watershed - off with the old and on with the new.

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12315

      #17
      'The old order changeth, yielding place to new'

      There will never be a better opportunity than now to finally change the Last Night and the BBC should grasp it with both hands.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • gradus
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5622

        #18
        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
        'The old order changeth, yielding place to new'

        There will never be a better opportunity than now to finally change the Last Night and the BBC should grasp it with both hands.
        I quite enjoy it but don't seek it out and don't at all mind the 'traditional' items, however if something else takes it place I hope they at least retain Jerusalem arr. Elgar.

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #19
          Originally posted by Count Boso View Post
          I think there would have to be some form of LNOTP, unless there was only one concert, the FandLNOTP . They could rethink what 'traditions' are worth keeping and which are now outdated. This year might be a watershed - off with the old and on with the new.

          Absolutely ...... some things we are better off without

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22194

            #20
            Originally posted by gradus View Post
            I quite enjoy it but don't seek it out and don't at all mind the 'traditional' items, however if something else takes it place I hope they at least retain Jerusalem arr. Elgar.
            I used to enjoy it years back - it was a fun end of term celebration and was treated in the right way by conductors like James Loughran, Norman Del Mar and of course earlier Flash Harry, but in recent years Proms in the Park has been added but certainly not improved it.

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            • kernelbogey
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5803

              #21
              Include only living composers, but keep schtum about that until after the ticket auction.

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              • LHC
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1562

                #22
                These perennial threads complaining about the LNOP always remind me of Orwell’s comment

                England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during God save the King than of stealing from a poor box.

                In my experience the people most offended by the LNOP seem to be middle class white Brits who read the Guardian. Other nationalities don’t appear to be greatly offended by it,hence the wide variety of flags of all nations on display at the LNOP in recent years. As someone else has commented, in Germany some towns even hold their own versions of LNOP.

                Although I would welcome some form of reassessment and the ditching of the proms in the park sections, as I suspect the BBC make a healthy profit from selling the international TV rights, I suspect they would be very reluctant to get rid of the traditional items that are most popular with the international audience.
                "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37835

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LHC View Post

                  In my experience the people most offended by the LNOP seem to be middle class white Brits who read the Guardian. Other nationalities don’t appear to be greatly offended by it,hence the wide variety of flags of all nations on display at the LNOP in recent years. As someone else has commented, in Germany some towns even hold their own versions of LNOP.
                  Whereas from snippets played mostly on news items the impression given of this great live working class entertainment is one of hundreds of Hooray Henry types enjoying a Tory party rally.

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                  • eighthobstruction
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6449

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Whereas from snippets played mostly on news items the impression given of this great live working class entertainment is one of hundreds of Hooray Henry types enjoying a Tory party rally.
                    bong ching

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5803

                      #25
                      Originally posted by LHC View Post
                      These perennial threads complaining about the LNOP always remind me of Orwell’s comment....
                      He died seventy years ago.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20575

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Though there have been some great commissions ...... Panic (on the streets of London) being one
                        "Panic" is down for the first night this year.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20575

                          #27
                          Prom 74 (12.09.20) Last Night of the Proms

                          The BBC Symphony Orchestra’s Principal Guest Conductor Dalia Stasevska makes her Last Night debut in the climax of a Proms season like no other. Tonight there’s no flag-waving at the Royal Albert Hall, but instead a musical feast in countless living rooms – and on countless mobile devices – across the country and around the world.

                          South African soprano Golda Schultz sings a ravishing aria from Mozart's opera The Marriage of Figaro and the rapt, intimate song ‘Morgen!’ written by Richard Strauss as a wedding-day gift to his wife. The BBC Symphony Orchestras is also joined by Georgian-born German violinist Lisa Batiashvili – among the first crop of Radio 3’s New Generation Artists 21 years ago – for Vaughan Williams’s soaring The Lark Ascending.

                          In these unsettled times, a new commission by Swedish composer Andrea Tarrodi points to music’s bright future. And there are Last NIght favourites, for which the BBC Singers join the BBC SO.

                          Live from the Royal Albert Hall
                          Presented by Georgia Mann and Petroc Trelawny

                          Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: The Marriage of Figaro - Overture and '‘Deh vieni, non tardar’
                          Richard Strauss: Morgen!
                          Andrea Tarrodi: SOLUS (BBC commission: world premiere)
                          Stephen Sondheim: A Little Night Music – Night Waltz and 'The glamorous life'
                          Sibelius: Impromptu for Strings
                          Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending
                          Trad. Romanian (arr. Stephan Koncz): The Skylark
                          arr. Henry Wood: Fantasia on British Sea Songs concluding with Arne: Rule, Britannia!
                          Edward Elgar (arr. Anne Dudley): Pomp and Circumstance March No. 1 in D major (‘Land of Hope and Glory’)
                          Rogers and Hammerstein: You'll Never Walk Alone
                          Hubert Parry (arr. Errollyn Wallen): Jerusalem
                          arr. Benjamin Britten: National Anthem

                          Golda Schultz (soprano)
                          Lisa Batiashvili (violin)
                          BBC Singers
                          BBC Symphony Orchestra
                          Dalia Stasevska (conductor)
                          Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 04-09-20, 16:34.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37835

                            #28
                            If They ban Rool Brittanias lirix I dont no wot the worlds Cumming too

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              If They ban Rool Brittanias lirix I dont no wot the worlds Cumming too
                              Snot appnin tho. Back nex year.

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                              • DracoM
                                Host
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 12991

                                #30
                                IMO, if they NEVER again have Rool Brit it'll be too soon.
                                For me, that Last Night tired ritual is an instant switch-off.

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