Prom 54 (30.08.20) Sir Simon Rattle - live

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  • parkepr
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    • Jul 2012
    • 88

    #61
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    No symphonies though...?
    I heard him do RVW 5 at the RFH back in the 90s as part of "Towards The Millennium" with the CBSO... My first time hearing the piece... Loved it..

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    • silvestrione
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      • Jan 2011
      • 1722

      #62
      Originally posted by parkepr View Post
      I heard him do RVW 5 at the RFH back in the 90s as part of "Towards The Millennium" with the CBSO... My first time hearing the piece... Loved it..
      I was there also, parkepr, as I said in #17 above. Though, on that occasion, as I explained, my experience was different from yours!

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26574

        #63
        Originally posted by gradus View Post
        I don't think that I could hear a finer performance of VW5, utterly beautiful and deeply moving.
        Yes, have now listened & watched, and it’s a marvellous performance... gaining much from the space and air around the players, it seemed to me (and, dare I say it, the absence of coughing during and applause afterwards....). The pacing was pretty near ideal, to my ears, and a reminder that not wallowing was a hallmark of RVW’s own performance at the same venue (heard a couple of weeks back on a Martin Handley Breakfast.

        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        Ades seemed amazingly derivative to me - and I mean derivative / imitative of older and far less recent pieces, Part being just one example.
        i.e. if you had not known it was a 'world premiere', would you not have ascribed it to Part etc?
        Completely agreed. Underwhelming. (An ‘instant classic’ in the same sense as Nescafé is ‘instant coffee’)
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #64
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Yes, have now listened & watched, and it’s a marvellous performance... gaining much from the space and air around the players, it seemed to me (and, dare I say it, the absence of coughing during and applause afterwards....). The pacing was pretty near ideal, to my ears, and a reminder that not wallowing was a hallmark of RVW’s own performance at the same venue (heard a couple of weeks back on a Martin Handley Breakfast.



          Completely agreed. Underwhelming. (An ‘instant classic’ in the same sense as Nescafé is ‘instant coffee’)
          Spray-dried, rather than freeze-dried, to boot.

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          • kernelbogey
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5803

            #65
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            ...An ‘instant classic’ in the same sense as Nescafé is ‘instant coffee’

            Not 'essential' then....

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26574

              #66
              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post

              Not 'essential' then....

              Shhhh... don’t give ‘em programme ideas!


              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • kernelbogey
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                • Nov 2010
                • 5803

                #67
                Or we could have it followed by some Saturday Dawn Sounds From Barnsley on a Saturday morming....

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22189

                  #68
                  Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                  Or we could have it followed by some Saturday Dawn Sounds From Barnsley on a Saturday morming....
                  At least Ades doesn’t use a egg slicer!

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11752

                    #69
                    Originally posted by parkepr View Post
                    I heard him do RVW 5 at the RFH back in the 90s as part of "Towards The Millennium" with the CBSO... My first time hearing the piece... Loved it..
                    An outstanding concert especially the VW5 and Elgar Introduction and Allegro . I rather enjoyed the Ades and the Gabrieli too.

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                    • Edgy 2
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                      • Jan 2019
                      • 2035

                      #70
                      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                      Or we could have it followed by some Saturday Dawn Sounds From Barnsley on a Saturday morming....
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      At least Ades doesn’t use a egg slicer!
                      ?
                      “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8654

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
                        ?
                        Apparently some egg slicers have thin wires that can be played as musical instruments, although I don't know whether cloughie has a particular composer in mind. A chap called Joe Acheson wrote a piece for egg-slicer harp. It sounds like the sort of thing that would have interested Gerard Hoffnung.

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                        • Edgy 2
                          Guest
                          • Jan 2019
                          • 2035

                          #72
                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                          Apparently some egg slicers have thin wires that can be played as musical instruments, although I don't know whether cloughie has a particular composer in mind. A chap called Joe Acheson wrote a piece for egg-slicer harp. It sounds like the sort of thing that would have interested Gerard Hoffnung.
                          Ah,and Barnsley ?
                          “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                          • kernelbogey
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5803

                            #73
                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            Apparently some egg slicers have thin wires that can be played as musical instruments, although I don't know whether cloughie has a particular composer in mind. A chap called Joe Acheson wrote a piece for egg-slicer harp. It sounds like the sort of thing that would have interested Gerard Hoffnung.
                            Some sort of yoke, no doubt....

                            (I'll get me coat.)

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                            • kernelbogey
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5803

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
                              Ah,and Barnsley ?
                              A reference to Saturday Breakfast, and its irritating feature called Saturday Sounds. If Barnsley hasn't featured yet, I'm sure it will. (I believe it's north of Watford, by some margin.)

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22189

                                #75
                                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                                A reference to Saturday Breakfast, and its irritating feature called Saturday Sounds. If Barnsley hasn't featured yet, I'm sure it will. (I believe it's north of Watford, by some margin.)
                                Which last Saturday featured the use of a rather tuneless egg slicer! By the way, Mr Bogeyman if you don’t know anything about Barnsley don’t randomly mention it - I have fond memories of the town from a very early age! Watch out edge, he’ll be taking a swipe at Stockport next which he no doubt thinks is also some name of a place north of Watford, wherever that is ?
                                Last edited by cloughie; 02-09-20, 06:23.

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