Prom 12: National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain - 27.07.19

[cloughie]

This thread is getting to be like the two Ronnies and John Cleese on the Frost Programme!

[Barbirollians]

I went to a Welsh comp. It's not for me to say what standard it was, but if I say that I got as many grade A's at A-level as the rest of my year put together you may form an impression. I wasn't intensively coached, and I got in.

Bully for you . I got the A levels and an S level that meant that had I applied again I would have sailed in - however hell would have frozen over before I would have applied again . Condescending class ridden it was then and still is- I have spent my career coming across Oxon and Cantab lawyers with a sense of entitlement and far less talent than self belief . Which probably explains our current PM too.

[jonfan]

This thread is getting to be like the two Ronnies and John Cleese on the Frost Programme!

[Zucchini]

It was a nice concert. I liked Nicky's dress …

[Paulie55]

Awful presentation

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Indeed.

The presentation is really spoiling the tv broadcasts for me.
Tom Service was speaking so quickly that I couldn't actually make out what he was saying some of the time.

Tom Service just gabbles and shouts incredibly stridently over the appplause..........so did Jess Gillam. Don't you feel as if you're being patronised by all presenters anyway?

[jonfan]

Tom Service just gabbles and shouts incredibly stridently over the appplause..........so did Jess Gillam. Don't you feel as if you're being patronised by all presenters anyway?

No not really. They’re enthusiastic and it is catching in a concert given by teenagers. Better by far than the serious scripts we used to have read in wooden, robotic way. At least these people show emotion and Jess G is learning on the job.

[vinteuil]

... They’re enthusiastic and it is catching in a concert given by teenagers. Better by far than the serious scripts we used to have read in wooden, robotic way. At least these people show emotion ....

... I do not look for 'emotion' when listening to presenters. I wd far prefer a wooden robot.

[Stunsworth]

This thread is getting to be like the two Ronnies and John Cleese on the Frost Programme!

I think that it's good that people can put life's disappointments behind them and get on with their lives.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

... I do not look for 'emotion' when listening to presenters. I wd far prefer a wooden robot.

- not that they could be so described in the '70s & '80s. Nor even earlier from the recordings that survive from the '50s & '60s. Instead, the focus was on the Music, not the presenter, enpowering the listener to respond as s/he wished. Better - because more democratic - by far than the "you've got to think everything we do is fantastic and you must join in the emotion I'm feeling" attempt at mass manipulation that we have these days.

[MrGongGong]

I think that it's good that people can put life's disappointments behind them and get on with their lives.

[LeMartinPecheur]

... I do not look for 'emotion' when listening to presenters.

I wd far prefer a wooden robot.

vints: careful what you wish for! The technology for automated presenters probably isn't that far away, and there's no guarantee that they wouldn't be just as emotionally coercive as our favourites in the present crop

[pastoralguy]

I think that it's good that people can put life's disappointments behind them and get on with their lives.

And deny yourself the experience of growing a tumour!

[pastoralguy]

vints: careful what you wish for! The technology for automated presenters probably isn't that far away, and there's no guarantee that they wouldn't be just as emotionally coercive as our favourites in the present crop

So I could have Clara Bow presenting... ?

[jonfan]

I don’t feel that today’s presenters are trying to persuade us to think what they think, just as people on this forum expect us all to think the same. It’s good to have opinions heard about what we hear and I don’t mind hearing what someone else thinks either, here or on air. We’ve come a long way from introducing classical music as though reading the telephone directory. There's more freedom all round and NYO concerts are a good example. Years ago they came on the stage line by line, dressed in identical white blouses and shirts looking like scared rabbits. Look at them now!
I know what will suit wooden robot lovers, Alexa! Instant savings, trebles all round.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

We’ve come a long way from introducing classical music as though reading the telephone directory.

This never happened - you are inventing a past, not criticising one.