Prom 26: Mozart’s Requiem - 7.08.19

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20585

    Prom 26: Mozart’s Requiem - 7.08.19

    19:00 Wednesday 7 August 2019
    Royal Albert Hall

    Johannes Brahms: Tragic Overture
    Richard Wagner: Tristan and Isolde – Prelude and Liebestod
    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Requiem in D minor (compl. Süssmayr)


    Fatma Said soprano
    Kathryn Rudge mezzo-soprano
    Sunnyboy Dladla tenor
    David Shipley bass
    BBC National Chorus of Wales
    BBC National Orchestra of Wales
    Nathalie Stutzmann conductor

    Love and loss, life and death collide in an emotionally charged concert given by Nathalie Stutzmann and the BBC National Orchestra and Chorus of Wales.
    Turbulent shifts of mood characterise Brahms’s Tragic Overture, and their ripples continue through the Prelude and Liebestod from Wagner’s powerful operatic exploration of forbidden love, Tristan and Isolde.
    At the heart of the programme is Mozart’s Requiem – the composer’s final work, left unfinished at his early death, and his own musical epitaph. Soloists include former BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artists Fatma Said and Kathryn Rudge.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 31-07-19, 21:56.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20585

    #2
    Süssmayer again? Can I put in a good word for Duncan Druce?

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Süssmayer again? Can I put in a good word for Duncan Druce?
      Fair point but HCRL or Levin would also suit better than Süssmayer.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11947

        #4
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Fair point but HCRL or Levin would also suit better than Süssmayer.
        Sussmayr was a contemporary of Mozart and had access to his sketches give me that over a modern day academic any day.

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #5
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          Sussmayr was a contemporary of Mozart and had access to his sketches give me that over a modern day academic any day.
          Sussmayr was only the backup choice. His 'completion' was built on the work of those HCRL used as original sources. Levin has a better grasp of Mozart's compositional style than his (Mozart's) lesser student. [See, for instance, http://www.classicalnotes.net/classi...rtrequiem.html .]
          Last edited by Bryn; 04-08-19, 00:47. Reason: Link added.

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11947

            #6
            Thanks for the interesting article but as HCRL made the same point I think it holds against the Druce version.

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            • bluestateprommer
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3032

              #7
              Good, solid start to this BBC NOW Prom, with Nathalie Stutzmann pacing Brahms' Tragic Overture pretty well, with a bit of a slight Luftpause at the end. Someone obviously had a sense of humor to put Brahms and Wagner back-to-back on the same program, and in the same half.

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              • ANON
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                • Aug 2019
                • 33

                #8
                Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                Good, solid start to this BBC NOW Prom,
                oh well I started a new thread about our friends from Cardiff.

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                • bluestateprommer
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3032

                  #9
                  In keeping with the Brahms, solid reading from NS of the Wagner, a few modest smudged chords aside. Nice that the audience held the silence for a good spell at the end, although at least one audience member started to clap just a tad early, amid the silence.

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                  • ANON
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2019
                    • 33

                    #10
                    Very poor intonation. in some passages unbearable.
                    As they sing towards FF the choir sing sharp in places (particularly sopranos), with reverting to flat as soon as it comes back to p>pp.

                    There were violent clashes to the pitch between the orchestra and the choir in umpteen passages.
                    It only started to come a little cleaner somewhere around the benedictus, not even to talk about the completely constricted tenor, and completely unrelaxed bass.

                    I have sung and played this piece, so I might know a little of the technical difficulties btw.

                    The whole performance was so totally uneven and in places dreadfully mediocre, it was NOT UP TO the high standard you would expect to hear in London.
                    The only saving point was the (eventual) beautiful soprano who flooded the area with beautiful sounds but which then unbalanced the ensemble because the others weren't up to the task.

                    What to do?
                    Do it all again PROPERLY next time.

                    Shame!
                    Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 09-08-19, 08:41.

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                    • edashtav
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                      • Jul 2012
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                      #11
                      A solid performance of the 'trad' version of Mozart's Requiem, a piece so sublime that its magic is well nigh inextinguishable. This evening will not stay long in my memory as an entity but it will reinforce cherished memories. I thought the conductor asked her Chorus to make a few dramatic changes of dynamic levels. I could not see the merit in these except to give the routine some personality. Not up to the best Prom standards.

                      I missed the first half, partly through my antipathy towards Wagner's music. I may try to catch up with Brahms' wonderful Tragic Overture.

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                      • jayne lee wilson
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        #12
                        PROM 26 MOZART K626.
                        (Chorusmaster Adrian Partington/Sols/BBCNOW/Stutzmann. RADIO 3 AAC 320 Live. Excellent soloists/choral/orch. balance of notable clarity, good depth and wide dynamic range. Very quiet pps. Big sound with Soft Power!.)

                        A truly exceptional Mozart Requiem.


                        Even on a purely technical level, the choral/orchestral balance was clean and clear throughout, with sharply defined rhythms and keenly articulated sung text. No fuzziness or cloudiness here!
                        I could hear almost every word, sung as if it really were the day of reckoning.
                        Rhythms were kept strikingly buoyant, lifted, light or punchy as apt, microdynamic subtlety of both orchestra and chorus always drawing your ear into the music. Which tonight reminded you vividly of why this work has taken on such a mortal, immortal, mythical quality in the wider culture.

                        Soloists sang well alone or as a quartet, the tenor showed some strain and intonation problems, but he isn’t often exposed so this didn’t trouble me too much.

                        Among so many highlights - the fast fiery Dies Irae; lugubrious, ruminative bass/trombone duet in the tuba mirum (Stravinsky’s Pulcinella came to mind in this often neo-classically shaped reading); the superbly angry rex tremendae, then the (very!) hushed, much slower contrast of the brief, precious imploring of the salva me…(similarly in the superbly-paced confutatis/voca me).
                        The delicate traceries of the violins in the ricordare, so light and classically idiomatic, again with fine quartet singing here.

                        The subtle, sensitive choral work was compelling, perhaps the defining feature tonight with some marvellously clear articulation, whether soft and low or high dynamic impact).
                        So great credit to the chorus master Adrian Partington, who along with all the other performers, and the fluidly expressive but finely-controlled direction from Nathalie Stutzmann gave me a Prom Performance to remember.

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                        • DracoM
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 13015

                          #13
                          Well, jayne, IMO we must have been listening to different performances.
                          Tuning was at times bizarre, as were tempi.

                          Oh dear.

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                          • richardfinegold
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                            • Sep 2012
                            • 7862

                            #14
                            I didn’t realize that NS had become a Conductor. One wonders if she has some individual ideas about how the choral work should go that most Conductors wouldn’t have, and if she was perhaps less than 100% successful in communication about those ideas to the chorus, and if any issues arose as a result...
                            There can be legitimate differences of opinion about the merits of a performance, or about which types of audio components we prefer to listen to. If someone has a difference in opinion, that does not make them the epitome of evil who requires demonization. I would hate to see the level of discourse here sink to the cesspool of rancor that characterizes most Internet Political discussions. This site has generally been an exception to the hissing that Internet anonymimity seems to encourage.

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                            • oddoneout
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                              • Nov 2015
                              • 9485

                              #15
                              This performance of the Requiem fell into the 'interesting' category for me rather than memorable/must listen again. Some of the tempi ended up the wrong side of sprightly for my liking, there were some exaggerated mannerisms/dynamics that I didn't feel were necessary or successful, the balance of the women's voices was odd in places - the altos sitting in front of me with the sops away up somewhere else. The soloists I felt didn't gel that well as a group and individually there were issues, especially with the tenor, and I'm not convinced they were happy with the tempi of some of the arias - there was a sense of tension on occasion.
                              However I did like in general the nimbleness and clarity of the choir and, when all's said and done the music transcends the performance as far as I'm concerned. Having the good fortune to have both played and sung this in a variety of settings the music is now heard through multiple filters. In pedestrian or less engaging broadcasts I simply sing along with the choir, when the finer points of balance etc will disappear!

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