Prom 67: Sakari Oramo conducts Sibelius

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    Prom 67: Sakari Oramo conducts Sibelius

    19:30 Sunday 8 September 2019
    Royal Albert Hall

    Modest Mussorgsky: A Night on the Bare Mountain (orch. Rimsky-Korsakov)
    Louis Andriessen: The Only One - BBC co-commission with the Los Angeles Philharmonic and NTR Zaterdag Matinee: UK première
    Judith Weir: Forest
    Jean Sibelius: Symphony No 5 in E flat major (final version, 1919)


    Nora Fischer singer
    BBC Symphony Orchestra
    Sakari Oramo conductor

    A Prom celebrating Nature in all her moods. A flight of 16 swans was the catalyst for Sibelius’s stirring Fifth Symphony, with its ambiguous, mysterious ending. We hear the composer's final 1919 version - after the thrilling UK premiere of the original 1915 version performed at the BBC Proms earlier this season by the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra. While for Judith Weir it was nature’s process – forests sprouting outwards from a single seed, endlessly growing and multiplying – that offered inspiration.

    Nature turns menacing in Mussorgsky’s vivid tone-poem A Night on the Bare Mountain. Boundary-breaking singer Nora Fischer is the soloist in the UK premiere of The Only One by Dutch composer Louis Andriessen, who turned 80 this year, setting texts by the Flemish poet Delphine Lecompte.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 31-08-19, 11:52.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    #2
    Psst...
    Don't tell Ferney about this one.

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    • jayne lee wilson
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      #3
      Shame there isn't a shorter, rarer Sibelius poem to start this.... The Bard, The Dryad/Dance Intermezzo, or even Oceanides...

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      • cloughie
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        #4
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        Shame there isn't a shorter, rarer Sibelius poem to start this.... The Bard, The Dryad/Dance Intermezzo, or even Oceanides...
        Spring Song? - would tie kn with the nature theme!

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        • Once Was 4
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          #5
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Shame there isn't a shorter, rarer Sibelius poem to start this.... The Bard, The Dryad/Dance Intermezzo, or even Oceanides...
          Or possibly Mussorgsky's original version of Night on a Bare Mountain? Stark, spare, not an ounce of fat and with plenty of impact just like his original version of Boris Godunov. I always find Rimsky's version a bit of a non-event.

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          • Bryn
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            #6
            Originally posted by Once Was 4 View Post
            Or possibly Mussorgsky's original version of Night on a Bare Mountain? Stark, spare, not an ounce of fat and with plenty of impact just like his original version of Boris Godunov. I always find Rimsky's version a bit of a non-event.
            St John's Eve for me, too.

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            • Master Jacques
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              #7
              Originally posted by Once Was 4 View Post
              Or possibly Mussorgsky's original version of Night on a Bare Mountain? Stark, spare, not an ounce of fat and with plenty of impact just like his original version of Boris Godunov. I always find Rimsky's version a bit of a non-event.
              The problem is, Mussorgsky's stark and fat-free originals (I'd call them "thin" rather than "fat-free" myself) are so incompetently scored and harmonised, that he needed Rimsky to do that sort of professional work for him. Mussorsky's originals are embarrassingly ... well, modest(e), technically. He was an amateur, after all, despite his extraordinary imagination.

              In the concert hall, away from the rebalancing knobs of clever studio/concert hall audio engineers, R-K's revised versions - which are beautiful models of the orchestrator's art, without an ounce of spare fat - make much greater impact. There is no contest, in my opinion. In a "blind tasting" I guess that most audiences would think so too. Today's scholarly push in favour of the Mussorgsky originals, with their multiple problems and inadequacies, is a great example of wrong-headed purism.

              And before anyone comes up with the riposte that those originals are "what the composer wanted", they are not. There is plenty of written evidence to prove that he himself was frustrated by his own inability to clothe his visions in decent orchestral garb, and was profoundly grateful to his friend and colleague for making them performable.

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              • MrGongGong
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                #8
                This one

                Artist: Strawberry Switchblade.Track: Since Yesterday.Album: Strawberry Switchblade.Label: Korova.Released: 1984.High Quality With Audio Upgrade And No Logos...


                Follow Gorillaz online:http://gorillaz.com http://facebook.com/Gorillazhttp://twitter.com/GorillazBandhttps://instagram.com/gorillazMusic video by Gorillaz p...


                or even have a play with this wot my mate made




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                • cloughie
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  This one

                  Artist: Strawberry Switchblade.Track: Since Yesterday.Album: Strawberry Switchblade.Label: Korova.Released: 1984.High Quality With Audio Upgrade And No Logos...


                  Follow Gorillaz online:http://gorillaz.com http://facebook.com/Gorillazhttp://twitter.com/GorillazBandhttps://instagram.com/gorillazMusic video by Gorillaz p...


                  or even have a play with this wot my mate made




                  This is what happens when musicians (mis)use Sibelius!

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                  • Bryn
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    This one

                    Artist: Strawberry Switchblade.Track: Since Yesterday.Album: Strawberry Switchblade.Label: Korova.Released: 1984.High Quality With Audio Upgrade And No Logos...


                    Follow Gorillaz online:http://gorillaz.com http://facebook.com/Gorillazhttp://twitter.com/GorillazBandhttps://instagram.com/gorillazMusic video by Gorillaz p...


                    or even have a play with this wot my mate made




                    Not forgetting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoJmBzTi0IQ

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                    • MrGongGong
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      This is what happens when musicians (mis)use Sibelius!
                      Not really " (mis)" IMV

                      this one the other hand (skip to 3:05" if you can't stand it )

                      http://nostalgie-70-80.blog-video.tv/http://disco-italien.e-monsite.com/https://www.facebook.com/groups/682079221851453/

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                      • cloughie
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Not really " (mis)" IMV

                        this one the other hand (skip to 3:05" if you can't stand it )

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp_s...&frags=pl%2Cwn
                        I see that one of the writers has the surname Shakespeare, no credits for Jean S and I think the basis of it owes more than a little to Brian Wilson.

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          I see that one of the writers has the surname Shakespeare, no credits for Jean S and I think the basis of it owes more than a little to Brian Wilson.
                          Of course it's "Beach Boys Lite" but the slab of Sibelius ?

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                          • jayne lee wilson
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                            #14
                            Andriessen note....
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                            • Bryn
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                              Thanks for the link. Looks enticing. I'll catch it later. Other distractions at the moment.

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