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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37908

    #31
    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
    But we have paninis so why not zucchinis?
    We only have two Puncinellas!

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #32
      Originally posted by Bella Kemp View Post
      To quote Kevin Costner in Field of Dreams, 'Build it and they will come.'

      They won't.... ALL the experience points to the fact that people won't simply "stumble across" Mahler on the radio and fall in love with it forever... those that do are the ones who are odd.

      Not that most of the gigs in post #1 are ones I would go to

      I'm not sure that the ones folks complain about are there to entice an audience for the rest of the season anyway?

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      • PhilipT
        Full Member
        • May 2011
        • 423

        #33
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        They won't.... ALL the experience points to the fact that people won't simply "stumble across" Mahler on the radio and fall in love with it forever... those that do are the ones who are odd.

        Not that most of the gigs in post #1 are ones I would go to

        I'm not sure that the ones folks complain about are there to entice an audience for the rest of the season anyway?
        How true. My mind goes back to the skinny young blonde who turned up early enough for the David Bowie Prom to get into the Arena for the preceding Haitink Mahler 3. When it was explained to her that all the places at the front were already taken by people who had been queuing since early morning she looked as though she had stepped through a wormhole into another universe. I wonder what she made of the Mahler.

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 11173

          #34
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          We only have two Puncinellas!

          I've got more than two on my shelves!

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37908

            #35
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

            I've got more than two on my shelves!

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22223

              #36
              Originally posted by PhilipT View Post
              How true. My mind goes back to the skinny young blonde who turned up early enough for the David Bowie Prom to get into the Arena for the preceding Haitink Mahler 3. When it was explained to her that all the places at the front were already taken by people who had been queuing since early morning she looked as though she had stepped through a wormhole into another universe. I wonder what she made of the Mahler.
              She probably now thinks Gustav knocks David into a cocked hat - well if not she should!

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22223

                #37
                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                I've got more than two on my shelves!
                Some suite, some complete?

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                • Conchis
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2396

                  #38
                  This year, I paid no attention to the Proms. I have not attended a live Prom since 2015. This year, I didn’t listen or watch, either, though - by chance - I caught a bit of the Ellington Prom.

                  Did I imagine it, or was the VPO advertised as performing Dvorak 9? If so, this must rank as the worst bit of programming in recent Prom history. Why bring the VPO to London to play an over-familiar piece that could be competently performed by any pick-up orchestra in any part of Britain, as it is?

                  Pretty outrageous and stupid, I’d say.

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11173

                    #39
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Some suite, some complete?
                    Indeed!
                    (Just spotted your post, cloughie!)

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                      This year, I paid no attention to the Proms. I have not attended a live Prom since 2015. This year, I didn’t listen or watch, either, though - by chance - I caught a bit of the Ellington Prom.

                      Did I imagine it, or was the VPO advertised as performing Dvorak 9? If so, this must rank as the worst bit of programming in recent Prom history. Why bring the VPO to London to play an over-familiar piece that could be competently performed by any pick-up orchestra in any part of Britain, as it is?

                      Pretty outrageous and stupid, I’d say.
                      That was a shame, but the Haitink Bruckner 7 the previous night was something no-one hearing it any which way would ever, ever forget...
                      The Korngold in the second concert was a hedonistic blast too...
                      (and part of an outstanding week, with the Staatskapelle, and the DKO Bremen...)

                      How it is with live concerts..... some you win....

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                      • Pianorak
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3128

                        #41
                        My two big disappointments: Prokofiev piano concerto no. 2 with Seong-Jin Cho, BBCSO/Cristian Măcelaru, and the Rachmaninov piano concerto no. 3 with Yuja Wang, Staatskapelle Dresden/Myung-Whun Chung.
                        My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                        • pastoralguy
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7844

                          #42
                          Easy!

                          The Shanghai Orchestra playing the Dvorak 'cello concerto with the wonderful Alicia Weilerstein at this year's Edinburgh Festival. I refuse to remember the name of their conductor since he was appalling. I make no bones about the fact that I'm sure I could have 'conducted' that 'performance' better than he could by simply saying 'piano' and halving the orchestra's string section! Or any metronome could have done better. I've never felt more sorry for a soloist than I did for Ms. Weilerstein that night. She did her best but we could barely hear her for the wind section that could have been heard back in Shanghai without electronic means!

                          And the leader's Solo at the end, one of my very favourite moments in all music, was a joke. Talk about belting it out?! I can only assume that both he and the 'CONductor' are highly regarded by the party. Here is come advice. BUY AND LISTEN TO SOME RECORDINGS BY REAL MUSICIANS!!

                          Sorry China, but if you want to impress us in the West you're going to have to up your game!

                          Avoid this crew at all costs!

                          (Is my disappointment coming through! I'd hate there to be any ambiguity!'

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 7054

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                            This year, I paid no attention to the Proms. I have not attended a live Prom since 2015. This year, I didn’t listen or watch, either, though - by chance - I caught a bit of the Ellington Prom.

                            Did I imagine it, or was the VPO advertised as performing Dvorak 9? If so, this must rank as the worst bit of programming in recent Prom history. Why bring the VPO to London to play an over-familiar piece that could be competently performed by any pick-up orchestra in any part of Britain, as it is?

                            Pretty outrageous and stupid, I’d say.
                            I have to say that I really enjoyed their performance and unlike some others on the forum even though I’ve heard it hundreds of times I never tire of it..

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                            • pastoralguy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7844

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                              I have to say that I really enjoyed their performance and unlike some others on the forum even though I’ve heard it hundreds of times I never tire of it..

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                              • DracoM
                                Host
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 13000

                                #45
                                Rachmaninov piano concerto no. 3 with Yuja Wang, Staatskapelle Dresden/Myung-Whun Chung >> oh yes,
                                AND
                                that appalling Shanghai Orchestra. Blimey. Whoever had that idea at the BBC..........????

                                The Dresden band are on thir day among the best there is, but good grief - what was going on?

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