Prom 60: Marin Alsop & Baltimore Symphony Orchestra – 27.08.18

[BBMmk2]

I’ll be waiting for The the broadcast, this Friday!

[DracoM]

Think I must have been too tired to appreciate the DSCH 5, as the audience evidently thought it very good. There were times when I didn't recognise what I was hearing - which might have been partly due to a questionable radio signal further mangled by my unsatisfactory equipment, but I would usually be able to get past that - as I say I was tired. The encores I greatly enjoyed, especially the first.

Felt a bit slow and painstaking to me. Certainly well played, but just....well, a tad leaden.

[silvestrione]

The only source would be the skybox (in another room) which would entail an impractical degree of daily connection/disconnection, but my fussy ears don't usually enjoy the dab or freeview sound, partly because of the analytically-revealing system I run... (sorry, no disrespect to dab/freeview listeners, audiophile ears can be both blessing and curse... )

Can't you just listen on the radio? That's all I've ever done.

[edashtav]

Can't you just listen on the radio? That's all I've ever done.

Do you prefer a cat’s whisker detector to a steam wireless, silvestrione?

[LMcD]

Can't you just listen on the radio? That's all I've ever done.

I listen to Radio 3 on Freesat Channel 703 and it always sounds fine to me. If the time isn't convenient, I record it onto the built-in DVD player.

[Bryn]

I listen to Radio 3 on Freesat Channel 703 and it always sounds fine to me. If the time isn't convenient, I record it onto the built-in DVD player.

Hmm. 192kbps mp2, i.e. same as DAB when broadcasting at its top rate, and well below the audio standard of Radio 3 HD Sound on the iPlayer (320kbps AAC-LC).

[LMcD]

Hmm. 192kbps mp2, i.e. same as DAB when broadcasting at its top rate, and well below the audio standard of Radio 3 HD Sound on the iPlayer (320kbps AAC-LC).

I wasn't really aware of the difference, not being versed in these matters - but I have noticed, to my eternal credit , that the speakers that I use with my desk top are better than those in my TV set. Thank you for the information!

[jayne lee wilson]

Thanks for all the comments.....
(Bryn - iplayer was no better..)

(Very) long story short, I managed to get the newer Mac Air (overworked but at least it's SSD) going with Audirvana/Qobuz and Radio 3 AAC, using some slightly hairy software adjustments ("disabling signature interrogation" comes with some very stern warnings...:) for Mac to talk to Dac, and reinstallation...

So upside - I seem to have Radio 3 back now, via USB1 to the Dac - downside, I can't get it to work with the superior USB2 Asynchronous..emailed T&A about it... but it sounds OK and seems stable, I'll know more after (well, during!) the Liszt/Bruckner 4 tonight. Assuming I can recover some enthusiasm...

I'm afraid the finger is now pointing, with awful clarity, at the older Mac (this still runs well most of the time with Audirvana, even streaming, but when I visit the iPlayer everything goes horribly wrong, and afterward, the Mac Pro slows...right...down...on everything. But that's just not logical is it?... More thinking to do there).

Ah, Radio! The history I've had with that.....
But as aforementioned, DAB/Freeview bitrates/codecs don't please these fussy ears, FM sounds sweetly musical but has no climaxes nowadays, levels go distractingly up and down....

The Things we do for Love...

[edashtav]

I’m glad that you’ve found a key to the gateway to Proms’ heaven, Jayne.

[BBMmk2]

Thanks for all the comments.....
(Bryn - iplayer was no better..)

(Very) long story short, I managed to get the newer Mac Air (overworked but at least it's SSD) going with Audirvana/Qobuz and Radio 3 AAC, using some slightly hairy software adjustments ("disabling signature interrogation" comes with some very stern warnings...:) for Mac to talk to Dac, and reinstallation...

So upside - I seem to have Radio 3 back now, via USB1 to the Dac - downside, I can't get it to work with the superior USB2 Asynchronous..emailed T&A about it... but it sounds OK and seems stable, I'll know more after (well, during!) the Liszt/Bruckner 4 tonight. Assuming I can recover some enthusiasm...

I'm afraid the finger is now pointing, with awful clarity, at the older Mac (this still runs well most of the time with Audirvana, even streaming, but when I visit the iPlayer everything goes horribly wrong, and afterward, the Mac Pro slows...right...down...on everything. But that's just not logical is it?... More thinking to do there).

Ah, Radio! The history I've had with that.....
But as aforementioned, DAB/Freeview bitrates/codecs don't please these fussy ears, FM sounds sweetly musical but has no climaxes nowadays, levels go distractingly up and down....

The Things we do for Love...

Sounds like In Paradisium!

[underthecountertenor]

Thanks for all the comments.....
(Bryn - iplayer was no better..)

(Very) long story short, I managed to get the newer Mac Air (overworked but at least it's SSD) going with Audirvana/Qobuz and Radio 3 AAC, using some slightly hairy software adjustments ("disabling signature interrogation" comes with some very stern warnings...:) for Mac to talk to Dac, and reinstallation...

So upside - I seem to have Radio 3 back now, via USB1 to the Dac - downside, I can't get it to work with the superior USB2 Asynchronous..emailed T&A about it... but it sounds OK and seems stable, I'll know more after (well, during!) the Liszt/Bruckner 4 tonight. Assuming I can recover some enthusiasm...

I'm afraid the finger is now pointing, with awful clarity, at the older Mac (this still runs well most of the time with Audirvana, even streaming, but when I visit the iPlayer everything goes horribly wrong, and afterward, the Mac Pro slows...right...down...on everything. But that's just not logical is it?... More thinking to do there).

Ah, Radio! The history I've had with that.....
But as aforementioned, DAB/Freeview bitrates/codecs don't please these fussy ears, FM sounds sweetly musical but has no climaxes nowadays, levels go distractingly up and down....

The Things we do for Love...

I understand so little of this (or of the technical stuff posted by Bryn and others) but I do feel that I am missing out on what appears to be an aural paradise due to my complete inability to use such equipment as I have to access the best available broadcast or downloaded sound. I think I'm just going to have to pay one of you to come round and sort it out for me.

[doversoul1]

I understand so little of this (or of the technical stuff posted by Bryn and others) but I do feel that I am missing out on what appears to be an aural paradise due to my complete inability to use such equipment as I have to access the best available broadcast or downloaded sound. I think I'm just going to have to pay one of you to come round and sort it out for me.

Aural paradise is not an essential component of a musical heaven as far as I am concerned. Remember mono recordings if not 78s

[underthecountertenor]

Aural paradise is not an essential component of a musical heaven as far as I am concerned. Remember mono recordings if not 78s

You’re right of course. My most treasured records include the early volumes of EMI’s Record of Singing and the Busch Quartet’s Beethoven; and I’ve recently bought the Callas live opera box, in which her voice shines through some of the most atrocious recordings I’ve ever heard.

But when it comes to new broadcasts of live concerts, I do somehow feel that I’m missing out when I read jaynelee et al’s mouthwatering descriptions of the sound quality they’re enjoying. Though even what I have is miles better than the FM broadcasts waywardly captured by a cheap tuner with indoor aerial which frustrates me so much in my youth (complete with electrical interference when my mum was doing the ironing!!) I truly am grateful for what I’ve got...

[Oh, and by the way, thanks for recommending the Giardino/Prohaska late-nighter. It was terrific, and sounded wonderful even on my relatively modest equipment).

[Nick Armstrong]

J-Y Thibaudet looks extraordinarily like a middle-aged Bernstein from some angles! Gave me quite a turn when I switched on with Age of Anxiety already underway and thought What trickery is this?!

[Nevilevelis]

J-Y Thibaudet looks extraordinarily like a middle-aged Bernstein from some angles! Gave me quite a turn when I switched on with Age of Anxiety already underway and thought What trickery is this?!

So, it wasn't just me! #lennytributebarnet