Prom 55: Iván Fischer & Budapest Festival Orchestra (II) – 23.08.18

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20578

    Prom 55: Iván Fischer & Budapest Festival Orchestra (II) – 23.08.18

    19:30
    ON TV
    Royal Albert Hall

    Franz Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No. 1 in C sharp minor
    Johannes Brahms: Hungarian Dance No. 1 in G minor
    Franz Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No. 3 in B flat major
    Pablo de Sarasate: Zigeunerweisen
    Johannes Brahms: Hungarian Dance No. 11 in C minor
    Johannes Brahms: Symphony No 1 in C minor


    József Lendvay Sr violin
    József Lendvay Jr violin
    cimbalom
    Jenő Lisztes cimbalom
    Budapest Festival Orchestra
    Iván Fischer conductor


    Hungarian folk tunes run through the veins of Iván Fischer and the Budapest Festival Orchestra, while Gypsy rhythms set their pulses dancing.
    This concert – a true celebration of Hungary’s national music – traces the development of folk songs and dance, from their colourful, rough-hewn originals into virtuosic concert-hall reimaginings by Liszt, Brahms and Sarasate.
    In the second half comes Brahms’s dramatic First Symphony, whose darkness and drama eventually give way to an ending of transcendent musical triumph.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 20-08-18, 16:25.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20578

    #2
    Possibly a good choice for TV broadcast.

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    • BBMmk2
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #3
      Looks quite a lively programme! Be good to see how Iván Fischer does the Brahms 1!
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • edashtav
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        • Jul 2012
        • 3676

        #4
        Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
        Looks quite a lively programme! Be good to see how Iván Fischer does the Brahms 1!
        This may look lightweight but after last night’s concert, I’m confident it will be enlightening.
        Hungarian music with added zing, and probably a clutch of cimbaloms.

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Possibly a good choice for TV broadcast.
          ...but not until tomorrow night!

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          • edashtav
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            • Jul 2012
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            #6
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            ...but not until tomorrow night!
            Why does TV have to be hung, drawn and quartered?

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            • bluestateprommer
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3031

              #7
              Hmm, not the usual start to any orchestral concert, Prom or otherwise, but in a very, very good way :) . Nice touch to have Jenő Lisztes do a bit of cimbalom improvisation at the start, and to incorporate JL with improvisations on cimbalom in the Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody No. 1. Some of JL's improvisations ran a tad long, but just a tad, and it's all in extremely good, clean fun. On to the Brahms Hungarian Dance No. 1 and József Lendvay Sr.....

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              • jayne lee wilson
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                • Jul 2011
                • 10711

                #8
                PARTY ON IVÁN!

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                • bluestateprommer
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  PARTY ON IVÁN!
                  Yup, he is, as are the BFO and the guest artists. "FLiszt"'s Hungarian Rhapsody No. 3 was definitely in the same spirit as the opening selections. The Zigeunerweisen was clearly in more of the "as written" mode, with discreet underpinning from Jenő Lisztes. For sheer entertainment at an exalted level, this may well be the Prom of the season.

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                  • Constantbee
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                    • Jul 2017
                    • 504

                    #10
                    I do like this orchestra. This is one of the best string sections I've heard for ages.
                    And the tune ends too soon for us all

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                    • edashtav
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                      • Jul 2012
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Constantbee View Post
                      I do like this orchestra. This is one of the best string sections I've heard for ages.
                      Even my kit declared the strings to be supreme. frankly, I had to put up with most of the first half, too bitty and of dubious musical value for me. However, if we have to endure Liszt, Brahms and Sarasate in gypsum mood, It’s unlikely to be bettered.

                      As for the Brahms- we’ll I’ve been listening live for 65 years: Schwarz, Groves, Silvestri, Loughran, Boult, Rignold,Rattle et al...and this was the most alert, brightly characterised,exact in rhythm, full of appropriate rubati. Just delicious.

                      And.. a second Choral/ orchestral encore.

                      For Festival music-making of the finest possible type filled with interpretations that shine light onto old favourites, Ivan and his Festival band’s two concerts reign supreme this Proms season.

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                      • Darkbloom
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                        • Feb 2015
                        • 708

                        #12
                        Originally posted by edashtav View Post

                        As for the Brahms- we’ll I’ve been listening live for 65 years: Schwarz, Groves, Silvestri, Loughran, Boult, Rignold,Rattle et al...and this was the most alert, brightly characterised,exact in rhythm, full of appropriate rubati..
                        You almost never hear Hugo Rignold mentioned these days. Was he any good? His sister was a family friend when I was a youngster and I'm always intrigued on the rare occasions his name pops up. There can't be many conductors who started out as a blacksmith.

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                        • Bumfluff
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                          • Nov 2011
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                          #13
                          Well, this rocked. Head still spinning with Brahms 1. It feels like a work where the authors is struggling to reconcile the tradional structures, which represent classical values, with the varied frenetic moods that he has experienced and he knows he can represent aurally. In that sense, despite its magnificent development and inregration of all the themes in the last movement, it doesn't cohere like the subsequent symphonies, which have internalised the musical material, it seems to me. I warned you my posts would be crap.

                          Yer man with the fiddle, the father, his instrument was surely out of tune? I need some reassurance about this because of how little I know. But that fiddle did not sound right. I thought I could see Ivan Fischer looking at him with curiosity as if to say, "what's up??". Was he just drunk maybe ? (in which case, solidarity , and well done for managing that at work). I was in rausing circle which was still £14!! and could only hear half of what he played, and that half sounded wrong as well as quiet. The prommers must have loved it. Maybe.

                          But yeah, that Brahms 1 kicked all shades of butt. I agree with edashtav. The rhythm was perfectly executed, turn on a sixpence.

                          First movement is like a combo of Beethoven 9 mvmnet 1, and Beethoven 7 mvement er not sure. The slow movement is a combo of the respective slow mvments form those symphonies too. And then the cheeky riff on ode to joy in the finale.

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                          • Bryn
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                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
                            You almost never hear Hugo Rignold mentioned these days. Was he any good? His sister was a family friend when I was a youngster and I'm always intrigued on the rare occasions his name pops up. There can't be many conductors who started out as a blacksmith.

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                            • Darkbloom
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                              • Feb 2015
                              • 708

                              #15
                              Thank you. I hadn't spotted that thread.

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