Prom 36: Mahler, Wagner and Webern – 9.08.18

[Serial_Apologist]

I know the power of the maas media only too well S-A, from my working life, and how its absence can hamper.
But we can’t wait around, and must do what ( little) we can. From small things big things one day come, as Springsteen said.

One reason why people like planting trees.

[edashtav]

I know the power of the maas media only too well S-A, from my working life, and how its absence can hamper.
But we can’t wait around, and must do what ( little) we can. From small things big things one day come, as Springsteen said.

I do admire your boundless enthusiasm and confidence, ts.
My worry is that we are losing what was won, and, I thought, secure.
Pushing that stone back up the hill, gets more difficult as believers age and become frail.

[teamsaint]

As an example, Chary Nurymov’s music, in the public sphere, seems to be disappearing before our eyes. But a few good people are keeping it alive, such as the Atrium Quartet,Richard Crabtree from Trinity Laban, hopefully Kiril Karabits who knew him as a young man.

It is an uphill struggle, as Ed suggests, but all is not lost. Things come and go, are cyclical, generational.

Anyway, off topic, but there is RC keeping the flame alive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-4-QMZqmQ

[jayne lee wilson]

I'm looking forward to listening to this later. I think the Phlharmonia have brought out the best in Salonen, who previously struck me a rather a chilly conductor. His performances with the LA Phil often sounded sterile and disengaged to me. It seems that there's only so much attention to go go round, though, and his achievements haven't quite got the recognition they deserve among the London orchestras. I think people will look back in years to come and speak about his tenure in the same way they talk about Klemperer's.

Did you ever hear his excellent Lutosławski Symphonies, or the Arvo Pärt 4th, with the LAPO? Warmth to spare on the latter (the Live premiere), it's a gorgeous record.

[Darkbloom]

Did you ever hear his excellent Lutosławski Symphonies, or the Arvo Pärt 4th, with the LAPO? Warmth to spare on the latter (the Live premiere), it's a gorgeous record.

No. I must give it a go. Thanks for the recommendations. On the occasions I saw him he looked rather bored, but it's always good to hear alternative views.

[VodkaDilc]

Those Wagner Tubas when Hunding entered were quite something weren't they? I couldn't wait for each reappearance. Something of a 2018 Proms highlight in themselves (and there have been many)....

Proof below that we all hear things differently: "Franz-Josef Selig was an imposing Hagen, belying the rather puny announcement of his arrival by the brass".

The full review is here:

https://www.ft.com/content/c9be7136-9c8f-11e8-9702-5946bae86e6d

Evidence perhaps that this reviewer was in a different part of the hall, so heard things with a different balance. Or perhaps another case of different people having different opinions. I am old enough and confident enough to believe that my view is just as valid as someone who gets paid to express his opinions in a daily newspaper.

As an afterthought, I have just noticed the heading on the review page. Does someone (sub-editor?) have the impression that the "Valkryies" appear in Act 1? The factual error and the spelling will surely be corrected soon - at least before it goes to print.

[jayne lee wilson]

Proof below that we all hear things differently: "Franz-Josef Selig was an imposing Hagen, belying the rather puny announcement of his arrival by the brass".

The full review is here:

https://www.ft.com/content/c9be7136-9c8f-11e8-9702-5946bae86e6d

Evidence perhaps that this reviewer was in a different part of the hall, so heard things with a different balance. Or perhaps another case of different people having different opinions. I am old enough and confident enough to believe that my view is just as valid as someone who gets paid to express his opinions in a daily newspaper.

As an afterthought, I have just noticed the heading on the review page. Does someone (sub-editor?) have the impression that the "Valkryies" appear in Act 1? The factual error and the spelling will surely be corrected soon - at least before it goes to print.

As I said above I was listening on the Radio 3 HDs webcast as usual, where it sounded marvellous all night - with great brass! Those distinctive Tubas came across with rotund, bovine immediacy..

[Beef Oven!]

As I said above I was listening on the Radio 3 HDs webcast as usual, where it sounded marvellous all night - with great brass! Those distinctive Tubas came across with rotund, bovine immediacy..

Bovine immediacy - WTF?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Steer horns?

[Darkbloom]

[QUOTE=VodkaDilc;692248]Proof below that we all hear things differently: "Franz-Josef Selig was an imposing Hagen, belying the rather puny announcement of his arrival by the brass".
/QUOTE]

An imposing Hagen! That egregious bloomer rather invalidates anything else they have to say.

Salonen had quite a flexible way with Act 1, pushing things along at times and then allowing the music to breathe. There were a few brass fluffs towards the end but the quality of the strings was excellent, with the basses providing plenty of oomph.

Maybe it's just me, but Robert Dean Smith sounded uncannily like James King.

[jayne lee wilson]

Bovine immediacy - WTF?

Something like this, perhaps....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKDu6cdXLI

We humans can be wonderful animals when we try, sometimes, can't we?

(Short break, Back for the ASMF, I guess...)

[Beef Oven!]

Something like this, perhaps....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKDu6cdXLI

We humans can be wonderful animals when we try, sometimes, can't we?

(Short break, Back for the ASMF, I guess...)

[Serial_Apologist]

I was cowed...

[Beef Oven!]

I was cowed...

No, for such a post you deserve a pat on the back.

[Serial_Apologist]

No, for such a post you deserve a pat on the back.