Proms 29 & 30: Brandenburg Concertos Project - 5.08.18

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    Proms 29 & 30: Brandenburg Concertos Project - 5.08.18

    Prom 29

    15:00
    Royal Albert Hall

    Johann Sebastian Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No 1 in F major, BWV 1046
    Mark-Anthony Turnage: Maya
    - UK première
    Johann Sebastian Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No 3 in G major, BWV 1048
    Anders Hillborg: Bach Materia
    - UK première
    Johann Sebastian Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No 5 in D major, BWV 1050
    Uri Caine: Hamsa
    - UK première

    Pekka Kuusisto violin
    Antje Weithaas violin
    Maya Beiser cello
    Fiona Kelly flute
    Uri Caine piano
    Mahan Esfahani harpsichord
    Swedish Chamber Orchestra
    Thomas Dausgaard conductor


    Prom 30

    19:30

    Royal Albert Hall

    Johann Sebastian Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No 4 in G major, BWV 1049
    Olga Neuwirth: Aello - ballet mécanomorphe - UK première
    Brett Dean : Approach – Prelude to a Canon
    Johann Sebastian Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No 6 in B flat major, BWV 1051
    Johann Sebastian Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No 2 in F major, BWV 1047 (arr. Felix Mottl)
    Steven Mackey: Triceros - UK première

    Antje Weithaas violin
    Brett Dean viola
    Tabea Zimmermann viola
    Claire Chase flute
    Fiona Kelly flute
    Marten Larsson oboe
    Håkan Hardenberger trumpet
    Swedish Chamber Orchestra
    Thomas Dausgaard conductor
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 29-07-18, 22:21.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2
    This is more like it. Mindless saturation concerts can be tedious, and a single concert with all 6 Brandenburg Concertos could have been precisely that.

    But instead we have the six works spread over two concerts and interspersed with new works.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      For my money the six "Brandenburgs" are so varied (both within and between each) that, played well, they could never become "tedious". But yes - this is a novel way of presenting them, and one I hope lives up to the potential.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie
        This is more like it. Mindless saturation concerts can be tedious, and a single concert with all 6 Brandenburg Concertos could have been precisely that.

        But instead we have the six works spread over two concerts and interspersed with new works.

        You really need to work a bit harder at understanding the difference between your personal likes/dislikes and facts. I for one enjoy saturation concerts and was disappointed that all 6 weren't to be performed in one night. But this is merely my preference. You should take a leaf out of my book.

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        • doversoul1
          Ex Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 7132

          #5
          I wouldn’t mind hearing a new work/new works with early music in one concert but I’m afraid my musical mind is not trained enough to enjoy interspersing of the two. I personally prefer listening to one thing at the time in separate blocks.

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #6
            I'll try it this way of course - you never know - but I too would have preferred the 6 Concerti alone, either side of an interval....

            Some years ago I bought an SWR/Gielen Mahler 3 album with the filler of extended Schubert ​Rosamunde selections, but - the Schubert movements were interspersed with Webern's 6 Orchestral Pieces Opus 6...

            I only ever played it as presented once... ...despite both works being played as well as I'd ever heard, it just didn't work for me.... do other listeners like programmes like this, or recall successful ones...?
            Or put them together themselves, off CDs, files etc....?

            Incidentally- wouldn't it be better to combine these concerts in a single thread?

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22223

              #7
              I know nothing of the non-Bach works. How were they chosen - were they in some way influenced by the Brandenburgs and why would they be suitable in this juxtaposition?

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #8
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                I know nothing of the non-Bach works. How were they chosen - were they in some way influenced by the Brandenburgs and why would they be suitable in this juxtaposition?
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20576

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  Incidentally- wouldn't it be better to combine these concerts in a single thread?
                  A good suggestion Jayne. I've merged them.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20576

                    #10
                    Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                    I wouldn’t mind hearing a new work/new works with early music in one concert but I’m afraid my musical mind is not trained enough to enjoy interspersing of the two. I personally prefer listening to one thing at the time in separate blocks.
                    But surely, each Bach work is presented in full without interruption. It isn't like interspersing new works between the movements.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      But surely, each Bach work is presented in full without interruption. It isn't like interspersing new works between the movements.
                      No, that would be the Art of Fugue (well. part of it) interspersed with Kurtag.

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #12
                        I can listen to this collection no problem.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          #13
                          They've achieved a lovely balance so far - just the right distance from the stage, good presence and detail but with a distinctively spacious setting in the RAH...
                          Excellent on HDs.

                          Remarkable concert so far - but something of an epic!
                          We've only just reached the interval (at 1630) after that wild, wierd and wonderful Hillborg improvisation with Pekka Kuusisto both vocalising and whistling....

                          OK! Coffee-Time in the garden with the Parakeets (I think Kuusisto channelled a few, shrieking away into the Bach Materia too...)
                          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 05-08-18, 15:35.

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                          • bluestateprommer
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3024

                            #14
                            In keeping with what I've heard of Dausgaard's concerts with the BBC SSO, I sensed some edgy tension in TD's reading of JSB's Brandenburg 1, which may (or may not) have caused some split notes in the reading. TD likes to go with a more HIPP-informed approach, in the brisk tempi and trimmed vibrato. M-AT's Maya showed a very lyrical side of Turnage, as he alluded to in his pre-concert recorded remarks, in the slow and singing feel of the music, which the work's namesake, Maya Beiser played very well.

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                            • DracoM
                              Host
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 13000

                              #15
                              Staggering! Riveting stuff!
                              At LAST, something to wake us out of the becalming predictability of the usual Proms season.
                              Hypnotic, and I can see this being a go-to repeat for me this autumn!

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