Prom 21: An Alpine Symphony – 30.07.18

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Prom 21: An Alpine Symphony – 30.07.18

    19:30
    Royal Albert Hall

    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Notturno in D major, K286
    Georg Friedrich Haas: Concerto grosso No. 1
    - UK première
    Richard Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

    Hornroh Modern Alphorn Quartet
    BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra
    Ilan Volkov conductor



    A concert of sonic scope and spectacle from the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra and its Principal Guest Conductor Ilan Volkov climaxes in Strauss's dramatic An Alpine Symphony, which paints a vivid picture of a day's hiking in the Bavarian mountains.

    The Alps also make their way into Georg Friedrich Haas's Concerto Grosso in the form of four alphorns - enormous wooden horns, whose other-worldly overtones also inspired Rossini and Berlioz.

    The concert opens with Mozart's Notturno, an unfinished Salzburg carnival serenade, whose four separate instrumental groups will be dispersed around the Royal Albert Hall for maximum acoustic drama.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 23-07-18, 10:55.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2


    This should set the cat among the pigeons (and seagulls). Four alphorns in the same concert as the work that has been claimed to include the instrument, by people who should know better.

    (I forgive Hoffnung.)


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    • aeolium
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      • Nov 2010
      • 3992

      #3
      Though no alphorn in the Alpine Symphony, there is the lesser spotted heckelphone, and this site suggests specialist players of this instrument are pretty hard to find:

      My recent experiences in booking wind players for my orchestration course has brought up a very important tip about heckelphone and bass oboe, a factor involved in the use of these instruments that you also won’t find in the orchestration manuals. I realise, of course, [...]


      I quite like Hindemith's Trio for heckelphone, viola and piano, though you have to wait a while for the heckelphone to make an appearance.

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Originally posted by aeolium View Post
        Though no alphorn in the Alpine Symphony, there is the lesser spotted heckelphone, and this site suggests specialist players of this instrument are pretty hard to find:

        My recent experiences in booking wind players for my orchestration course has brought up a very important tip about heckelphone and bass oboe, a factor involved in the use of these instruments that you also won’t find in the orchestration manuals. I realise, of course, [...]


        I quite like Hindemith's Trio for heckelphone, viola and piano, though you have to wait a while for the heckelphone to make an appearance.
        Hindemith, eh? Now where did I put that trautonium?

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 13018

          #5
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Hindemith, eh? Now where did I put that trautonium?
          .

          - Composer: Paul Hindemith (16 November 1895 -- 28 December 1963) - Performer: Oskar Sala (Mixtur-Trautonium) - Year of recording: 1977 7 Trio Pieces for 3 T...


          .

          ... if you've mislaid it, you can always get a replacement -

          Trautoniks - Custom made Trautonium und Music Electronics



          .

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          • EnemyoftheStoat
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1136

            #6
            Often overlooked is Strauss' use in operatic contexts of the heckelphone's relative, the boophonium.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #7
              Balthasar Streiff

              Probably the best alphorn player on the planet IMV

              An extract from INLAND, a musical film by Pierre-Yves Borgeaud with Swiss duo Stimmhorn: Balthasar Streiff (alphorns), Christian Zehnder (voice) Production...


              (this is with Christian Zehnder as Stimmhorn)

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20576

                #8
                I quite like this one.

                Leopold Mozart, Sinfonia Pastorella in F, für Alphorn und Streicher3. Satz, PrestoLive-Aufnahme von Masterprojekt "Alphorn bewegt"an der Zürcher Hochschule d...

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Not a patch on Arkady

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Not a patch on Arkady

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      The Music of Georg Friederich Haas (b1953) tends to divide opinion sharply amongst New Music enthusiasts, if discussions at recent Huddersfield Festival events are anything to go by. For the most part, it seems that "you have to be there", as the positive comments come mostly from people who attend Live performances (and Simon Rattle has declared Haas' In Vain as "the first great masterpiece of the 21st Century"), the negative ones from those who have experienced the work from broadcasts (Morgen und Abend was broadcast from Covent Garden in 2015, and Hear & Now featured many performances recorded at the 2016 HCMF) and recordings. Haas likes to involve unusual "staging" requirements in performances of his work, not least performances in total darkness (in In Vain and the 10th String Quartet, for example).

                      To me it sounds like ... well, the sort of Music that a conservative Music Director of one of the World's Greatest Symphony Orchestras would regard as "great masterpieces", and I don't really get what all the fuss is about. But tonight's half-hour-long Concerto Grosso (from 2014; another, for chamber orchestra, was also written that year) is already youTube-able for anyone who wishes to "prepare" themselves for tonight's performance:

                      Hornroh Modern Alphorn QuartetORF Radio-Symphonieorchester Wienconductor: Peter RundelJust for promotion.Please write me a direct message if you have complai...
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • BBMmk2
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #12
                        EA’s favourite Prom!
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          The Music of Georg Friederich Haas (b1953) tends to divide opinion sharply amongst New Music enthusiasts, if discussions at recent Huddersfield Festival events are anything to go by. For the most part, it seems that "you have to be there", as the positive comments come mostly from people who attend Live performances (and Simon Rattle has declared Haas' In Vain as "the first great masterpiece of the 21st Century"), the negative ones from those who have experienced the work from broadcasts (Morgen und Abend was broadcast from Covent Garden in 2015, and Hear & Now featured many performances recorded at the 2016 HCMF) and recordings. Haas likes to involve unusual "staging" requirements in performances of his work, not least performances in total darkness (in In Vain and the 10th String Quartet, for example).

                          To me it sounds like ... well, the sort of Music that a conservative Music Director of one of the World's Greatest Symphony Orchestras would regard as "great masterpieces", and I don't really get what all the fuss is about. But tonight's half-hour-long Concerto Grosso (from 2014; another, for chamber orchestra, was also written that year) is already youTube-able for anyone who wishes to "prepare" themselves for tonight's performance:

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOHi0foN3zU
                          I enjoyed In Vain at HCMF
                          but not 100% sure whether it was all to do with the sound of the music, seeing friends in the ensemble OR the combination of walking about the crowded town as the Christmas lights were switched on by an abseiling Santa then going into the Town Hall with the feeling of being surrounded by the carnival outside?

                          The "unusual" staging didn't strike me as terribly "unusual" but I guess that's down to what other experiences audiences have had.
                          Thanks for the link

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                          • jayne lee wilson
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 10711

                            #14
                            That's quite a few winds!


                            The sonority should be enjoyable in itself... I guess this is continuous play, no separate movements?

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              #15
                              Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                              Though no alphorn in the Alpine Symphony, there is the lesser spotted heckelphone, and this site suggests specialist players of this instrument are pretty hard to find:

                              My recent experiences in booking wind players for my orchestration course has brought up a very important tip about heckelphone and bass oboe, a factor involved in the use of these instruments that you also won’t find in the orchestration manuals. I realise, of course, [...]


                              I quite like Hindemith's Trio for heckelphone, viola and piano, though you have to wait a while for the heckelphone to make an appearance.
                              Not to mention the Sonata for 4 Horns OP.52.. couldn't they have squeezed that in somewhere?

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