Prom 3: BBC Young Musician 40th Anniversary - 15.07.18

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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8854

    #16
    Only VERY occasionally do we get a 'Poor or bad signal' message from Freesat here on the Suffolk coast. Talking with other residents confirms that, here at least, Freesat is much more reliable.

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #17
      There wasn’t enough time to have the full Carnival, Barbs, Clemmy nmore or less said that. I enjoyed all of the Prom, including Drumming by Steve Reich. A classic work, imho, Barbs. It’s a case a of another man’s etc is another’s poison?
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26601

        #18
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        via the iPlayer (possibly better definition in its version of HD than the standard broadcast BBC Four, which, as I keep moaning about, is all I can get here via Freeview. BBC1 HD, BBC2 HD, ITV1 HD and Channel 4 HD all work perfectly well, but no BBC Four HD.
        Yes, we've summarily been deprived of BBC4HD here in London too...
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30648

          #19
          I do think there is a lack of ambition in much of this. Yes, a real tribute to the Young Musician would have had it as a theme running through the season with (selected) soloists performing substantial works. But the thinking is that of Radio 3: short works with lots of variety, especially for 'new audiences' who aren't used to concentrating for 40+ minutes at a time.

          CB-H flown in specially from the USA?

          (How's the FLAC stream been this year, btw )
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Paulie55
            Full Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 87

            #20
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Seldom have so many fine players been wasted on so much second rate music and guff.

            A horribly cut Carnival of the Animals - what was the point of that ?
            Carnival may have omitted The Aviary and Tortoises amongst others but what concerned me was that the "arrangement" added music NOT composed by Saint-Saens. The work is clever enough without adding someone else's thoughts and more instruments. Also, I despise the fact that "Pianists" is deliberately played badly more often than not.........the music is amusing enough without agogic distortions!

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            • Bergonzi
              Banned
              • Feb 2018
              • 122

              #21
              We switched off after about 30 minutes as the music was so bad. If you can't write better stuff than that, find another career.

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11875

                #22
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                There wasn’t enough time to have the full Carnival, Barbs, Clemmy nmore or less said that. I enjoyed all of the Prom, including Drumming by Steve Reich. A classic work, imho, Barbs. It’s a case a of another man’s etc is another’s poison?
                It saved about 15 minutes - how the heavens could it be said they did not have the time ? What next ? - sorry we don't have time for the final movement of this symphony ?

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bergonzi View Post
                  We switched off after about 30 minutes as the music was so bad. If you can't write better stuff than that, find another career.
                  Which one in particular ?

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Which one in particular?
                    Which music, or which career?

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Which music, or which career?

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                      • jonfan
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1463

                        #26
                        Many on this thread don’t seem to get the message that this concert wasn’t full of profound, deeply felt music such as can be found in a Mahler or Bruckner symphony, but was light music and full of surface fun. Some challenging combinations for the arrangers to have a go at as well, none of them worthy of a Beethoven I’m sure they’ll be the first to admit. So everyone, lighten up.

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                        • Il Grande Inquisitor
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 961

                          #27
                          Disappointing Prom, which I watched on television. With so many guest soloists, it was always going to be a bit of a rag-bag... and I wonder what the rest of them (who all performed as co-soloists) felt about Nicola Benedetti being granted the only true solo spot.

                          Worst of all was the Henry Wood orchestration of The Great Gate of Kiev. Abysmal.
                          Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30648

                            #28
                            Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                            Many on this thread don’t seem to get the message that this concert wasn’t full of profound, deeply felt music such as can be found in a Mahler or Bruckner symphony, but was light music and full of surface fun.
                            Wasn't that precisely what people didn't like about it?
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • jonfan
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1463

                              #29
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              Wasn't that precisely what people didn't like about it?
                              Well don’t listen to it if it’s not your thing. It’s like complaining that a string quartet isn’t a symphony orchestra. You’ve got your wireless on the wrong part of the dial, just move it along until you find what you want.

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9410

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                                Well don’t listen to it if it’s not your thing. It’s like complaining that a string quartet isn’t a symphony orchestra. You’ve got your wireless on the wrong part of the dial, just move it along until you find what you want.
                                Perhaps it's disappointment as much as anything else? YM is a marvellous institution which has brought forward many wonderful musicians; this wasn't necessarily the best way to celebrate either of those two things on the 40th anniversary?
                                I would have liked instead a 2 or 3 part documentary series looking at the scheme's history and development - for instance the wider range of instruments now taking part, and the changes in repertoire - as well as some of the notable previous participants. If nothing else the competition demonstrates the truth in 'it's not the winning but the taking part', as there have been success stories among those who didn't take the ultimate prize, such as Benjamin Grosvenor.
                                I chose not to listen as I can only cope with a limited amount of 'specially commissioned/new piece' content in any one programme, even when the rest of the items appeal. I did wonder what audience it was aimed at.

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