Prom 3: BBC Young Musician 40th Anniversary - 15.07.18

[MrGongGong]

Not really because it was a concert of highlights. It's what it said was in the tin.

Surely one of the key ideas in Drumming is that it is "music as a gradual process" so the idea of a "highlight" completely misses the point of the piece ?

[jonfan]

Precisely - the "young Musicians" involved were presented as incapable of performing anything substantial at the "World's Greatest Music Festival". Just as with the TV presentation of the competition itself, they were treated as the less worthy of attention than the announcers, and not really very good. A very rusty tin.

So the announcers were more important? C B-H was very respectful and attentive to all. It was billed as a highlights concert, nothing more. We all know the likes of Emma Johnson, Michael Collins, Jennifer Pike, etc. are capable of the highest standards of performance so nothing to prove. They all were happy to enjoy this as a fun party. The 'World's Greatest Music Festival' doesn't have to be serious all the time.
Who was treated as 'not really very good' by the way?

[jonfan]

Surely one of the key ideas in Drumming is that it is "music as a gradual process" so the idea of a "highlight" completely misses the point of the piece ?

Guess so. Highlights from opera, or bits of a symphony, misses the point of a piece as well. So that's Classic FM done in then and Radio 3's Breakfast.

[oddoneout]

The 'World's Greatest Music Festival' doesn't have to be serious all the time

No, but neither should lighthearted or fun mean lesser quality.

Highlights from opera, or bits of a symphony, misses the point of a piece as well. So that's Classic FM done in then and Radio 3's Breakfast.

As many have been saying for some considerable time, and also about Essential Classics.

[MrGongGong]

Guess so. Highlights from opera, or bits of a symphony, misses the point of a piece as well. So that's Classic FM done in then and Radio 3's Breakfast.

Not really in the same way

[Bryn]

Surely one of the key ideas in Drumming is that it is "music as a gradual process" so the idea of a "highlight" completely misses the point of the piece ?

Well, to be fair, it was the whole of Part 1, which Reich is happy to have performed on its own. My criticism has already been made a couple of times, so I will not reiterate. Really looking forward to hearing the premiere, though coming from the other side of The Pond, it is not expected until early next month.

[MrGongGong]

Well, to be fair, it was the whole of Part 1, which Reich is happy to have performed on its own. My criticism has already been made a couple of times, so I will not reiterate. Really looking forward to hearing the premiere, though coming from the other side of The Pond, it is not expected until early next month.

aaah Ok
That does make sense to me
The folks I know who were in this concert seemed to rate it FWIW

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Who was treated as 'not really very good' by the way?

Well ( ) I would say that there were three groups of people who were shoddily treated; the performers, the composers, and the audiences.

[kernelbogey]

....the raison d'être for Carnival was to showcase past piano winners of the competition.....

I had hoped to hear this year's shining winner Lauren Zhang in a solo of some kind, so was disappointed that she was one of a quartet in the Carnival. The showbiz format was not at all to my liking.

[jonfan]

Well ( ) I would say that there were three groups of people who were shoddily treated; the performers, the composers, and the audiences.

Ah I thought you meant some of the performers were thought to be not very good as treated by the announcers.

[jonfan]

I had hoped to hear this year's shining winner Lauren Zhang in a solo of some kind, so was disappointed that she was one of a quartet in the Carnival. The showbiz format was not at all to my liking.

It would have been a very long concert if every winner from the last 40 years had a solo spot. I thought the format worked quite well to feature as many performers as possible in the time allowed. The fun the players had came over to the listeners.

[french frank]

The fun the players had came over to the listeners.

Not to all the listeners, it seems. Very R3/BBC to think that the important factor is for the performers to have fun. Like programmes where it's obvious that the presenters/studio guests have a lot of fun.

[Lordgeous]

I had hoped to hear this year's shining winner Lauren Zhang in a solo of some kind, so was disappointed that she was one of a quartet in the Carnival..

Me too.

[jonfan]

Not to all the listeners, it seems. Very R3/BBC to think that the important factor is for the performers to have fun. Like programmes where it's obvious that the presenters/studio guests have a lot of fun.

Are you suggesting the performers should suffer for the performance to be of acceptable quality? I don’t think anyone here set out to have fun but to perform well. As a result of it being successful they had fun, which came over to me anyway.

[Serial_Apologist]

Not wishing to be facetious, honestly, and pardon my higgorance, but you mean there's more of it?

I watched some of the concert on catch-up last night, remote in hand. When I thought things had gone on long enough, I fast-forwarded.

Reminds me of John Cage's story about music not being boring if listened to for long enough!