Prom 3: BBC Young Musician 40th Anniversary - 15.07.18

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Prom 3: BBC Young Musician 40th Anniversary - 15.07.18

    19:00
    ON TV
    Royal Albert Hall

    Camille Saint‐Saëns: The Carnival of the Animals
    Maurice Ravel: Tzigane
    James MacMillan: Britannia
    David Bruce: Sidechaining
    BBC commission: world première
    Iain Farrington: Gershwinicity BBC commission: world première
    Ben Foster: Fantasia on the Young Musician Theme BBC commission: world première

    Nicola Benedetti violin
    Jennifer Pike violin
    Nicholas Daniel oboe
    Ben Goldscheider horn
    Alexander Bone saxophone
    Jess Gillam saxophone
    Alexandra Ridout trumpet
    David Childs euphonium
    Natalie Clein cello
    Guy Johnston cello
    Sheku Kanneh-Mason cello
    Laura van der Heijden cello
    Michael Collins clarinet
    Emma Johnson clarinet
    Colin Currie percussion
    Owen Gunnell percussion
    Adrian Spillett percussion
    Sam Walton percussion
    Martin James Bartlett piano
    Freddy Kempf piano
    Lara Melda piano

    BBC Concert Orchestra
    Andrew Gourlay conductor

    BBC Young Musician has launched the careers of scores of artists since it began in 1978. We mark the competition's 40th anniversary with the help of an array of previous winners and finalists, joining this year's finalists; and we take a look at the competition's rich history.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 08-07-18, 11:00.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2
    Confused?

    I am - a little - in not knowing what the ex-winners are going to do.

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    • oddoneout
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      • Nov 2015
      • 9349

      #3
      Perhaps the new commissions have been given the task of providing parts for whatever selection of finalists will be available on the night?
      Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 08-07-18, 11:49. Reason: An hostly accident - hopefully restored - sorry!

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20576

        #4
        I did wonder whether that might be the case.

        If I were one of the composers, I might have considered writing "no vibrato" on Emma Johnson's part. She's very much in the Jack Brymer tradition, which I'm not keen on.

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        • BBMmk2
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          What a performance of Steve Reich’s Drumming. I was quite aghast! Percussion being my first sojourn into playing music.
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
            What a performance of Steve Reich’s Drumming. I was quite aghast! Percussion being my first sojourn into playing music.
            Seldom have so many fine players been wasted on so much second rate music and guff.

            A horribly cut Carnival of the Animals - what was the point of that ?

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            • jonfan
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              • Dec 2010
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              #7
              Great evening’s entertainment, everyone having a ball. Sir Henry would have approved; fitting to finish with his over the top Great Gate. Good to celebrate the Young Musicians past and present and to thank the BBC for its generous support; thus pointing out the dire condition of music education in state schools today.

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                Great evening’s entertainment, everyone having a ball. Sir Henry would have approved; fitting to finish with his over the top Great Gate. Good to celebrate the Young Musicians past and present and to thank the BBC for its generous support; thus pointing out the dire condition of music education in state schools today.
                To each their own .

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                • jonfan
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  To each their own .
                  Obviously you weren’t entertained, but you disagree with the rest of my post?

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                    Obviously you weren’t entertained, but you disagree with the rest of my post?
                    Oh, come on. What would you expect from someone with such a lack of appreciation of the musical qualities of Reich's Drumming? There again, I have not yet listened to this Prom, so am somewhat perplexed as to how a work of such duration might have fitted in. Perhaps it was just a brief extract.

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Oh, come on. What would you expect from someone with such a lack of appreciation of the musical qualities of Reich's Drumming? There again, I have not yet listened to this Prom, so am somewhat perplexed as to how a work of such duration might have fitted in. Perhaps it was just a brief extract.
                      Lots of brief extracts - and for some reason Nicola Benedetti got the only solo of the night a pretty tepid performance of Tzigane.

                      The previous winners seemed to be having a ball as did Clemency and Humphrey Burton . I suspect Sir Henry Wood would not have approved of the programme. It was just the sort of thing one might have expected - like an Essential Classics version of BBCYM.

                      A much better way of celebrating their qualities might have been to have offered each of the past 20 winners/finalists a concerto with the BBCSO over the season .

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        Lots of brief extracts - and for some reason Nicola Benedetti got the only solo of the night a pretty tepid performance of Tzigane.

                        The previous winners seemed to be having a ball as did Clemency and Humphrey Burton . I suspect Sir Henry Wood would not have approved of the programme. It was just the sort of thing one might have expected - like an Essential Classics version of BBCYM.

                        A much better way of celebrating their qualities might have been to have offered each of the past 20 winners/finalists a concerto with the BBCSO over the season .
                        I will not argue with your final sentence. It's a bit late for me to watch tonight, but I will catch up via the iPlayer (possibly better definition in its version of HD than the standard broadcast BBC Four, which, as I keep moaning about, is all I can get here via Freeview. BBC1 HD, BBC2 HD, ITV1 HD and Channel 4 HD all work perfectly well, but no BBC Four HD.

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          I will not argue with your final sentence. It's a bit late for me to watch tonight, but I will catch up via the iPlayer (possibly better definition in its version of HD than the standard broadcast BBC Four, which, as I keep moaning about, is all I can get here via Freeview. BBC1 HD, BBC2 HD, ITV1 HD and Channel 4 HD all work perfectly well, but no BBC Four HD.
                          Interestingly - or do I mean perversely? - Freesat has BBC 4 HD but recently dropped Channel 4 HD. Or is your lack of BBC4 HD a local quirk? Certain parts of the country have a limited choice of Freview channels for various reasons - geographical, meteorological, industrial (if you happen to live too near the docks here) and also, in Scotland, for socio-political reasons.
                          As for the Young Musicians Prom...if I may use a food-related analogy, it seems that, for some at least, it all added up to a Dim Sum.
                          Last edited by LMcD; 16-07-18, 06:37.

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                          • jonfan
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Lots of brief extracts - and for some reason Nicola Benedetti got the only solo of the night a pretty tepid performance of Tzigane.

                            The previous winners seemed to be having a ball as did Clemency and Humphrey Burton . I suspect Sir Henry Wood would not have approved of the programme. It was just the sort of thing one might have expected - like an Essential Classics version of BBCYM.

                            A much better way of celebrating their qualities might have been to have offered each of the past 20 winners/finalists a concerto with the BBCSO over the season .
                            NB had the starring role as she is YM Ambassador. Wood often programmed short pieces in the early days of the Proms to tempt concert goers. Didn’t he call new pieces ‘novelties’? I think yesterday’s concert would be right up his street. No one was there to further their career; other ex YMs are appearing later in the season, eg Mark Simpson and Benjamin Grosvenor. It was very generous of the professionals of the BBCCO to invite finalists from the 2018 competition to join them in their respective sections(is there a more versatile group in the UK?).

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                              Interestingly - or do I mean perversely? - Freesat has BBC 4 HD but recently dropped Channel 4 HD. Or is your lack of BBC4 HD a local quirk? Certain parts of the country have a limited choice of Freeview channels for various reasons - geographical, meteorological, industrial (if you happen to live too near the docks here) and also, in Scotland, for socio-political reasons.
                              As for the Young Musicians Prom...if I may use a food-related analogy, it seems that, for some at least, it all added up to a Dim Sum.
                              The lack of BBC Four Freeview reception here is indeed a local problem. I really should consider Freesat. I have now listened to/watched the performance of Part 1 of Reich's Drumming. I thought the phase transitions were carried out rather too quickly, thus losing much of the phsychoacoustic effect of apparent increasing resonance changing into the perception of separate drum strokes. I suppose the RAH acoustica would have made the transition less clear.

                              [One good thing to come of this performance of Part 1 of Drumming is that I went in search of details of the first performance I attended (Hayward Gallery 1972). I had already heard a Radio 3 broadcast of the work and we were practicing its basic rhythmic cell in Cardew's Experimental Music Class at Morley College. My search turned up a ver inacurrate report which claimed that Hayward Gallery performance to have been it premier. I am not too sure about some of its claims re. perfromers involved. However, further serching led me to a site advising that the recording of the actual premier had recently been re-issued on both vinyl and polycarbonate. I have just ordered the latter format from Five Rise Records. Whether they actually have it in stock or not, I am not entirely sure. We shall see.]
                              Last edited by Bryn; 16-07-18, 10:04. Reason: Update.

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