Proms 2018

[PhilipT]

Promming and queuing protocols

Promming and queuing protocols

I am looking in vain for a good guide to Proms etiquette which used to be a sticky. Anyone seen it?

Ah, yes, I wrote that. I can't re-post it in its original form. It would need considerable revision - the rules for queuing changed completely at the beginning of last season, partly for security reasons and partly because the Hall's current fit of renovation has closed two of the doors.

Note to any complete newbies reading this: If you plan to Prom for the first time then, as soon as you get to the Hall, find a Steward (in red or grey uniforms, sometimes with hi-viz jackets on top) and get a raffle ticket for the appropriate queue to secure your place in that queue. Except in rare cases you'll only need, and get, one raffle ticket per day even if there are two Proms on the same day. If there's more than about 90 minutes to go before the start of the concert you will then be able to go away again without losing your place. This is the RAH's system, but it isn't at all well explained either in the Guide or on the tickets. At least two people were caught out by this yesterday (Sunday 19th August) - they had bought Arena Day tickets online but weren't aware of the need to get a raffle ticket when they arrived at the Hall.

I'll try to answer questions, but I can't spare the time to re-write my earlier effort.

[Bumfluff]

Hello. I am goign to the brahsm prom tonight. And the Bruckner tomorrow. I've also been to Debussy Pelleas, Ravel Daphnis, Wagner Die Walkure, and R Strauss Das Aleinsinfinoie. I am having a total blast. They have all been amazing. I'm not intelligent or musicological enough to post as intelligently as you folk, but I just wanted to chip in. I am also not a musician, which surely everyone else here is. Anyway, I love reading the forum! You people are all fantastic even those who like things diametrically poosed to my taste, like anglican hymns

[french frank]

Hello. I am goign to the brahsm prom tonight. And the Bruckner tomorrow. I've also been to Debussy Pelleas, Ravel Daphnis, Wagner Die Walkure, and R Strauss Das Aleinsinfinoie. I am having a total blast. They have all been amazing. I'm not intelligent or musicological enough to post as intelligently as you folk, but I just wanted to chip in. I am also not a musician, which surely everyone else here is. Anyway, I love reading the forum! You people are all fantastic even those who like things diametrically poosed to my taste, like anglican hymns

[LMcD]

Hello. I am goign to the brahsm prom tonight. And the Bruckner tomorrow. I've also been to Debussy Pelleas, Ravel Daphnis, Wagner Die Walkure, and R Strauss Das Aleinsinfinoie. I am having a total blast. They have all been amazing. I'm not intelligent or musicological enough to post as intelligently as you folk, but I just wanted to chip in. I am also not a musician, which surely everyone else here is. Anyway, I love reading the forum! You people are all fantastic even those who like things diametrically poosed to my taste, like anglican hymns

Not everyone else! The nearest I came to being a musician was playing the recorder extremely badly at school - mercifully (for me and particularly for others) only until I was allowed to drop Music for other subjects.

[Serial_Apologist]

Seconded!

[StatMallard]

Anybody know why Prom 53, the late night prom on Tuesday wasn't broadcast on R3? Not necessarily my usual cup of tea, but I like to be able to say I've listened to them all, come end of the season. Baffled

[cloughie]

Hello. I am goign to the brahsm prom tonight. And the Bruckner tomorrow. I've also been to Debussy Pelleas, Ravel Daphnis, Wagner Die Walkure, and R Strauss Das Aleinsinfinoie. I am having a total blast. They have all been amazing. I'm not intelligent or musicological enough to post as intelligently as you folk, but I just wanted to chip in. I am also not a musician, which surely everyone else here is. Anyway, I love reading the forum! You people are all fantastic even those who like things diametrically poosed to my taste, like anglican hymns

What is diametrically opposed to anglican hymns punk rock or the Moslem call to prayer.

[gurnemanz]

Anybody know why Prom 53, the late night prom on Tuesday wasn't broadcast on R3? Not necessarily my usual cup of tea, but I like to be able to say I've listened to them all, come end of the season. Baffled

Seems to have become Prom 65a on 31 Aug. Youssou Ndour should be worth a listen.

[LMcD]

Anybody know why Prom 53, the late night prom on Tuesday wasn't broadcast on R3? Not necessarily my usual cup of tea, but I like to be able to say I've listened to them all, come end of the season. Baffled

There is a separate 'Prom 53' thread.

[StatMallard]

Except that I've looked through the individual Proms threads and there isn't one for Prom 53

[vinteuil]

Except that I've looked through the individual Proms threads and there isn't one for Prom 53

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http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?19195-Prom-53

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[LMcD]

It's not a Proms thread. It's simply called 'Prom 53?' (The question mark is part of the title of the thread).

[bluestateprommer]

Some general words of praise for BBC R3 and The Proms from Opera News, where you have to forgive the slightly awkward phrase in the spirit of "the Google" from William R. Braun, in this essay:

https://www.operanews.com/Opera_News_Magazine/2019/1/Features/Lost_Art_.html

The essay is worth reading on the presence of lieder recitals in NYC in general, but to save people some time, here's the money quote about R3 and The Proms:

'New York has taken a few things for granted for too long, and it has now found itself behind the curve in other ways. For a long time, it didn’t really seem to matter that the U.S. has not had anything like the BBC Radio 3 in Great Britain. Many of the Wigmore recitals are broadcast live, and every single concert of the eight-week festival of the BBC Proms, which offers lieder along with just about everything else, can be heard live as well. When I landed in London last August, my customs agent asked me if I would be going to the Proms that night. It wasn’t a random question; told that I was, she replied, “Many others are going too, sir.” She wasn’t getting off work early enough to go herself, but she would catch up later, because all of the BBC broadcasts remain available online for thirty days.'

[BBMmk2]

Some general words of praise for BBC R3 and The Proms from Opera News, where you have to forgive the slightly awkward phrase in the spirit of "the Google" from William R. Braun, in this essay:

https://www.operanews.com/Opera_News_Magazine/2019/1/Features/Lost_Art_.html

The essay is worth reading on the presence of lieder recitals in NYC in general, but to save people some time, here's the money quote about R3 and The Proms:

We might bemoan about what we have, but we can say at the same time, how lucky we are.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

We might bemoan about what we have, but we can say at the same time, how lucky we are.

I disagree, Bbm - having a twenty-year-old Corsa that keeps breaking down and you're sure is going to fail its MOT might be better than having nothing at all, but it isn't really "lucky", and shouldn't stop us trying to get a better model.