Proms 2018

[MrGongGong]

When you say "screens out", do you mean "highlights", ts?!

[teamsaint]

When you say "screens out", do you mean "highlights", ts?!

In a word, no.

Its me having a lunch break larff.

( Schnittke chamber music, cheese toastie, cuppa, Proms schedule. Could be worse.)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

hmmm. Someone seen Prom 53 anywhere? 52 is the Bergen Phil on Tuesday 21/8, 54 is the Budapest Festival Orchestra at Wednesday 22/8

- well spotted! (I wonder if there's a prize - even if it's just Tony Hall saying "Well done Demetrius - I wondered who'd be the first to spot that one!")


By the way - a "Go To" feature would have been useful in getting to Prom 52 rather than scrolling through the previous 51 concerts plus associated events!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

In a word, no.
Its me having a lunchbreak larff.
( Schnittke chamber music, cheese toastie, cuppa, Proms schedule. Could be worse.)

I think that your "larf" is the programmers' App!

[teamsaint]

Yes, but the Barbican also provide a downloadable PDF summary providing all the basic details:

https://www.barbican.org.uk/sites/de...sheet%20LR.pdf

Ah thanks, never spotted that before.

[Bryn]

- well spotted! (I wonder if there's a prize - even if it's just Tony Hall saying "Well done Demetrius - I wondered who'd be the first to spot that one!")


By the way - a "Go To" feature would have been useful in getting to Prom 52 rather than scrolling through the previous 51 concerts plus associated events!

I guess it's this. The Prom with no number.

[teamsaint]

I guess it's this. The Prom with no number.

The promenada

[Suffolkcoastal]

Anybody notice the glaring error on the 27th August Cadogan Hall recital?

Charlie Barber
Hermit Songs, Op. 29 – ‘Sea Snatch’; ‘The Monk and His Cat’
- does anyone at the BBC know how to proof read??

A couple only really for me;
27th July, with two of my favourite works together, the Holst: Ode to Death & RVW 3rd
8th August, Copland: Connotations, certainly would be interested in hearing this live.
the Baltimore SO/Alsop, its a pity the Bernstein 'Age of Anxiety' is encumbered with Shostakovich 5

Apart from that the usual hefty weighting towards works composed c1870-1920, the usual tedious Mahler offerings (including his two most turgid symphonies), too much Ravel (but that reflects R3 programming in general). No Gounod in his bicentennial!!! Surely a place could have been found for at least one of his two utterly delightful symphonies. Poorly balanced (timewise) concerts, and the continuing annoying trend towards increasingly shorter concerts, a couple having only around an hour of music in total! Is this so that the R3 presenters can have even more 'air-time' in which to gush & waffle & have giggly conversations with various guest artists/presenters???

[Demetrius]

I guess it's this. The Prom with no number.

Interestingly, there are 75 Proms, since there is a Prom 65a. Maybe they mistyped when they assigned numbers and at the same time forgot what is now 65a, so that they got to the right number. Then they found the problem and only wanted to reprint most of their promotional material instead of all of it.

The Inspire Event is not at the Albert Hall, they tend not to number those and call it something else.

[vinteuil]

Apart from that the usual hefty weighting towards works composed c1870-1920...

... indeed, as usual. And the period of music I find least rewarding.



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[Stanfordian]

... indeed, as usual. And the period of music I find least rewarding.



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c 1870-1920... The period of music I find most rewarding!

[vinteuil]

c 1870-1920... The period of music I find most rewarding!

... well, I will allow you Fauré, d'Indy, Janáček, Puccini, Mahler, Albéniz, de Bussy, Strauss, Sibelius, Roussel, Déodat de Séverac, Schoenberg, Ravel, Bartók, Berg, Tailleferre, Granados, and Hindemith...

But that's it.

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[Bryn]

... well, I will allow you Fauré, d'Indy, Janáček, Puccini, Mahler, Albéniz, de Bussy, Strauss, Sibelius, Roussel, Déodat de Séverac, Schoenberg, Ravel, Bartók, Berg, Tailleferre, Granados, and Hindemith...

But that's it.

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What, no Elgar, RVW, Bruckner, Ives, Stravinsky, Berg, Webeern, Ravel, Satie . . . ?

[Demetrius]

Some British Numbers

2011: 31 composers, 68 works, apr. 1299 minutes of music, = 21,65 hours
2012: 43 composers, 68 works, apr. 1654 minutes of music, = 27,57 hours
2013: 37 composers, 90 works, apr. 1797 minutes of music, = 29,95 hours
2014: 35 composers, 77 works, apr. 1699 minutes of music, = 28,32 hours

2015: 37 composers, 53 works, apr. 879 minutes of music, = 14,65 hours
2016: 41 composers, 56 works, apr. 738 minutes of music, = 12,3 hours
2017: 30 composers, 44 works, apr. 958 minutes of music, = 15,97 hours

The spike in 2013 is due to the Britten festivities. That 2017 has more minutes/hours is due to the Elgar Cycle and Haendel Israel in Egypt (255 minutes are those 4 works alone). 2017 includes Saunders Molly's Song, Britten Russian Funeral and Daniel Saleeb Toccata on Erhalt uns ... which hadn't been listed yet. I might have missed one here or there, but that shouldn't have much impact on the overall results.

To pull my British Music statistic from last year; now we can add:

2018: 38 composers, at least 75 works, apr. 1150 minutes of music, so about 19 hours.

Some of the new commissions have no run times. Some descriptions make it unclear which or how many works are going to be performed, but this should end up at that or very similar numbers. A bit of a resurgence, though the number of pieces is slightly inflated by Sarah Connolly performing 14 of them in one chamber concert alone.

Overall: nice to see some Lili Boulanger pieces spread out through the season. There is a lot of interesting bits in between La Mer, Bolero and the umpteenth Rite of Spring. Again a year without a flashy, Gothic Symphony-style event. Bach, Mozart, Haendel, Haydn continue to get - on the whole - a better share of the cake than they did a few years back. And everything before Bach gets a 3 minute nod here and there.

I forgot to include which pieces are commissions and which aren't in my own excel list, and I don't feel like diving into the BBC website again - has anyone looked into how the 50/50 thing is shaping up?

[vinteuil]

What, no Elgar, RVW, Bruckner, Ives, Stravinsky, Berg, Webeern, Ravel, Satie . . . ?

... yes to Bruckner and Webern, obvs. Berg and Ravel already mentioned.

Not really much room for 'Sir' E Elgar, Mr Vaughan-Williams, nor yet Ives, Stravinsky, Satie.

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