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Thank you. That would imply Saturday 12th May, but I am still hoping for something a bit more definite. I'm trying to plan some time away in May and don't want to miss the key date. -
Checking on the forum archive, it looks to have been the first Saturday in 2011 and 2016, the second in 2012, 2013 and 2017 and the third in 2014 and 2015. So it does look like Wait and SeeOriginally posted by Hornbill View Post
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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Thank you for doing this research which is both helpful and unhelful! If anyone from R3 reads these posts perhaps they could comment? Otherwise, as you say, "wait and see".Comment
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BBC Proms announced on twitter the other day that it will in fact be Sat 12th May when booking opensComment
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Will the schedule have already been agreed? They really should have a Scottish Prom this year to commemorate the 150th birthdays of the wonderful Sir John Blackwood McEwen in particular plus Hamish MacCunn and Granville Bantock who while not Scottish was influenced by The Hebrides. I bet they won't do, though. We'll probably get nothing by any of them.
It is probably also the 150th birthday of Joplin although he could have been born in 1867. I'd have a ragtime prom - Joplin, Lamb, Debussy, Stravinsky, Schulhoff, Moyzes, Bolcom etc.
Interestingly, a little known fact - I didn't know until today - is that most ragtime writers were women : Mamie Gunn, Euday Bowman, Hattie Nevada, Irene Cozad, Elsie Janis, Hanna Rion, Irene Giblin, Florence Wood, Mary Walsh, Margaret Woodin, Charlotte Blake, Bessie Powell, Sadie Koninsky, Emma Harte, Myrtle Hoy, Abbie Ford, Annie Ford McKnight, Effie Kamman, Agnes Melville, Dorothy Ingersoll Wahl, May Aufderheide, Mabel McKinley, Florence Wilson, Marian Davis, Cora Salisbury, Anna Hughes Carpenter, Julia Niebergall, Anita Owen, Winnifred Greenwood, Hortensia Weisman, Betty Morgan, Florence McPherran, Hattie Starr, Gladys Yelvington, May Summerbelle, Geraldine Dobyns, Maude Gilmore, Anna Held, Laura Schick King, Irene Franklin, Nellie Stokes, Camilla Shiele, Gertrude Colby, the Beaumont Sisters, Molly King, Pauline Story, Libbie Erickson, Luella Moore, Marie Louka, Gwendolyn Stevenson, Florence Cook, Alma Saunders, Mattie Harlburgess, Ruth Orndorff, Helen Eaton, Zema Randale, Mae Bell, May Irwin, Mamie Williams, Henrietta Belcher, Mattie Thompson.
Perhaps that might swing the decision!
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Savoir-faire, thank you very much for this. it's just what I wanted.Comment
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Found this at http://overtures.org.uk/?p=14385
"Leonard Bernstein – 25th August 2018 will mark the centenary of his birth – the BBC Proms will be celebrating with performances of two of his best known works to be led by John Wilson – “West Side Story” and “On The Town” will both be included in the Royal Albert Hall summer season."Comment
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Fine as it goes. I think they did the Mass in 2012 but they never do the symphonies. None of them are easy listening. They are arguably, though, intellectually challenging. It seems to me that they could come alive in an "event" such as a Prom given adequate context. For those of us who were only partially aware of him in his heyday - and in the case of younger people not even here during his time - it is patently obvious that Bernstein stands out as one of the more remarkable people of his age. A charismatic conductor. A great teacher. A painstraking analyst. Someone who could have been instinctively critical of the significant changes in approaches to composition into the 1960s but worked hard to interpret them and incorporate them in his own work. It is somewhat frustrating that the breadth of what he achieved remains so nebulous when all of the emphasis is misleadingly on his lighter work.Originally posted by mrbouffant View PostComment
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Second Proms confirmation is for September 1, 2018, c/o Boosey & Hawkes' page, which indicated that Yuja Wang is the soloist for Prokofiev 3, with the Berlin Philharmonic and Kirill Petrenko. Based then on the Lucerne Festival program 2 days before with YW, KP and the BPO, this would then seem to be that Prom:
Paul Dukas: La Péri (ou La Fleur d’immortalité)
Sergei Prokofiev: Concerto for piano and orchestra No. 3 in C major, Op. 26
Franz Schmidt: Symphony No. 4 in C major
Yuja Wang, piano
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Kirill Petrenko, conductorComment
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On monday, the Gewandhaus Orchestra presented its new season, including the Boston guest concert (Sept. 8), Mahler 3 with members of the Gewandhaus choirs. One of the presenters mentioned that they (the choirs and the BSO) would also perform together on festivals. The Gewandhaus Choirs will perform in in Lucern, but not in Tanglewood. So what other festival is there in late august / early september ...Originally posted by HighlandDougie View PostComment
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Possible however it could be a mix with the BPOs other concert and the Beethoven 7 replacing the Schmidt or the Strauss pieces from the first half .Originally posted by bluestateprommer View PostComment
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I see Haitink is in Lucerne for a couple of concerts with the Chamber Orchestra of Europe including with Alina Ibragimova- a fair chance they may be at the Proms too.Comment
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Two other hints at two other Proms for this summer, c/o Universal Edition's page:
(a) Saturday 21 July 2018, Chineke! and Wayne Marshall:
"Kurt Weill: Little Threepenny Music | 1928
Subtitle: Suite from ‘The Threepenny Opera’
Location: London (GB)
Scored for: for wind orchestra | 22’
Orchestra: Chineke Orchestra
Conductor: Wayne Marshall"
(b) Monday 30 July 2018, BBC SSO and Ilan Volkov:
"Georg Friedrich Haas: concerto grosso Nr. 1 | 2014
Location: London (GB)
Scored for: for 4 alphorns and orchestra | 30’
Orchestra: BBC Scottish SO
Conductor: Ilan Volkov"
On the one putative Berlin Phil / Yuja Wang Prom:
I can see this as a possibility. However, I prefer to hope (or I may have misguided faith) that the BPO will go with Dukas / Prokofiev / Schmidt, and not try to "dumb it down" with LvB 7 and R. Strauss. The cachet of the Berlin Phil, not to mention Yuja Wang, is enough to guarantee a pretty packed RAH, no matter what the program, methinks.Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostComment
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