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  • Barbirollians
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11711

    #46
    Well a year rather short on star soloists.

    Outside the international orchestras not a thrilling year at first glance , some extraordinarily short programmes and a deeply uninspiring First and Last Night. The latter also treats us no doubt again to one of the egregiously bumptious speeches of Sir Andrew Davis- bring back Marin Alsop I say !

    No Haitink and the Chamber Orchestra of Europe either despite their Lucerne dates.

    September 2 looks quite good though.
    Last edited by Barbirollians; 19-04-18, 09:00.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30335

      #47
      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
      Ravel Daphnis and Chloe
      Faure Pavane
      Mozart Piano Concerto No 27

      is all that we need, thank you very much.

      I simply do not have the time or inclination to read page after page of waffle.
      Prom 2: Mozart Ravel and Fauré

      Programme

      Gabriel Fauré
      Pavane (choral version)(5 mins)
      Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
      Piano Concerto No 27 in B flat major(32 mins)
      interval
      Maurice Ravel
      Daphnis and Chloe(52 mins)

      Seems clear enough to me, unless you object to having those extra details. What you quoted is in the smallest point size. No need to strain your … oh, but I forgot: we're playing the annual First Look at the Proms Programme game As you were …
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #48
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Prom 2: Mozart Ravel and Fauré

        Programme

        Gabriel Fauré
        Pavane (choral version)(5 mins)
        Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
        Piano Concerto No 27 in B flat major(32 mins)
        interval
        Maurice Ravel
        Daphnis and Chloe(52 mins)

        Seems clear enough to me, unless you object to having those extra details. What you quoted is in the smallest point size. No need to strain your … oh, but I forgot: we're playing the annual First Look at the Proms Programme game As you were …
        I wonder if Anastasius is using the same Proms Calendar website that I am:

        All broadcasts from the 2018 season of the BBC Proms.


        ... where the bumpf is very clear (An all-British concert launches the 2018 season. Vaughan Williams atmospheric Whitman settings and Holst’s ever-popular 1918 suite The Planets sit alongside a new collaboration by Anna Meredith and 59 Productions.) but to see the actual programme details, you have to click on "Show more information" - and you have to do this every time for the 90 events.

        Is there an alternative online facility that just gives the bare bones of what's on, as you illustrate? (Please!)
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Darkbloom
          Full Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 706

          #49
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          I wonder if Anastasius is using the same Proms Calendar website that I am:

          All broadcasts from the 2018 season of the BBC Proms.


          ... where the bumpf is very clear (An all-British concert launches the 2018 season. Vaughan Williams atmospheric Whitman settings and Holst’s ever-popular 1918 suite The Planets sit alongside a new collaboration by Anna Meredith and 59 Productions.) but to see the actual programme details, you have to click on "Show more information" - and you have to do this every time for the 90 events.

          Is there an alternative online facility that just gives the bare bones of what's on, as you illustrate? (Please!)
          Agreed. They still haven't fixed this. Most people want something at a glance without having all the mouse clickery. In past years someone has posted that very thing in this board, so fingers crossed they will do so again.

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          • Anastasius
            Full Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 1842

            #50
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Prom 2: Mozart Ravel and Fauré

            Programme

            Gabriel Fauré
            Pavane (choral version)(5 mins)
            Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
            Piano Concerto No 27 in B flat major(32 mins)
            interval
            Maurice Ravel
            Daphnis and Chloe(52 mins)

            Seems clear enough to me, unless you object to having those extra details. What you quoted is in the smallest point size. No need to strain your … oh, but I forgot: we're playing the annual First Look at the Proms Programme game As you were …
            Your missing the point. To get that listing, you have to click through. Now repeat that for every Prom...what a waste of time. Who needs to read all the waffle ?

            Not to mention scroll, scroll, scroll.
            Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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            • Anastasius
              Full Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 1842

              #51
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              .....
              Is there an alternative online facility that just gives the bare bones of what's on, as you illustrate? (Please!)
              Hear, hear.
              Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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              • Cockney Sparrow
                Full Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 2287

                #52
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                ............
                Outside the international orchestras not a thrilling year at first glance , some extraordinarily short programmes..........
                Had a quick look through - some good things of course. But yes - a lot of the programmes I thought "well, if I worked in London, and had a Proms pass, then maybe....but train fares plus the not inconsiderable ticket prices - well, no thanks, not for a short programme...."

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #53
                  Only had a quick run-through and I found it disappointing. Although I'm very pleased to see Turangalila again.

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                  • Demetrius
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 276

                    #54
                    Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
                    Bit of an unbalanced First Night !
                    Seems like you had the drop on us by a few hours the 22 minute second half indeed seems a little weird.

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                    • VodkaDilc

                      #55
                      I'm trying to avoid all this, so that I can enjoy the actual Proms Prospectus when it's on sale. There's nothing like sitting down for an hour with a cup of coffee and a pen, marking the concerts I want to go to. All these internet premonitions are nothing like the real thing. Even today's Telegraph has its 'highlights' page, but that's so superficail as to be laughable.

                      The Telegraph does have one good joke - a Bernstein concert conducted by the charismatic John Wilson. It's surely a joke.

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                      • Thropplenoggin
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1587

                        #56
                        Seems like a better ranger of contemporary and 20th Century composers: https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/rxfhzc/composers/by/a-z

                        Benjamin, Enescu, Haas, Ives, Norgard, Panufik, Widor, Xenakis amongst the more typical Gershwin, Ravel and Debussy. Obviously, Bernstein fans will be happy.

                        Proms 21, 36 and 51 seem interesting programmes but Diana Damrau singing 13 minutes of Strauss seems rather short order!
                        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                        • mrbouffant
                          Full Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 207

                          #57
                          As usual, I looked through the list and felt there was little for me. However, after a second pass I see I have noted 12 concerts which are of interest!

                          Good to see some Parry for his centenary, however I will grumble slightly and bemoan the fact we get little of his symphonic output. The fifth was given at The Proms not so long ago - would have been nice to hear one of the others!

                          All in all though, it should be a fun summer.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            Only had a quick run-through and I found it disappointing. Although I'm very pleased to see Turangalila again.
                            Dead rite expected back again too at Round House.

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                            • maestro267
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 355

                              #59
                              Some interesting fare, but all in all it's more of the same really. I'm not fully committed to the Proms this year. The music is fine, it's just everything else around it that puts me off. I could just listen to recordings of many of the pieces instead.

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                              • underthecountertenor
                                Full Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 1584

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                Here, here!!
                                Where, where??

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