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  • Stanley Stewart
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1071

    Proms 2018

    A morale booster to place an order for the 2018 PROMS brochure, £7 and
    due for release on April 19th. The voice of the cuckoo heard in our land again!
  • VodkaDilc

    #2
    Originally posted by Stanley Stewart View Post
    A morale booster to place an order for the 2018 PROMS brochure, £7 and
    due for release on April 19th. The voice of the cuckoo heard in our land again!
    ..but not such happy thoughts of a Saturday morning desperately jabbing at a computer.

    As regards the cost, my earliest edition of the Proms Prospectus (1972) has no price marked; but the 1973 one cost 15p. Does anyone have an inflation calculator?

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
      As regards the cost, my earliest edition of the Proms Prospectus (1972) has no price marked; but the 1973 one cost 15p. Does anyone have an inflation calculator?
      £1.71, according to online UK Inflation calculators.

      (Can't post a link on this wretched Tablet - Googling summons up several such daemons!)
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Alison
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6459

        #4
        I have seen the old prospectus format (dad has kept all the old ones) - far more inviting, readable and interesting as well as a lot cheaper! Easier to grasp the season, somehow!

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        • Stanley Stewart
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1071

          #5
          Indeed, VD, you recall the price of the 1972 Prospectus as 15p. Around this time, I remember
          booking a complete Ring Cycle, Goodall/Mackerras, for £15 in the ENO Balcony, Row C - time
          came to a standstill for several days. Andrew Porter's German text with English translation,
          a handsome edition still on my shelves was published @ £4.80p, 329p.

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          • Stanley Stewart
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1071

            #6
            Correction with apologies. I've just been browsing my AP translation and note that he referred
            to the 1977 cycle in his signed copy; a lunchtime 'do' at the Coli! Heavens, I must have
            seen several complete cycles in the 70s.

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11709

              #7
              Usually by now some of the touring orchestras websites will have let the cat out of the bag about playing at the Proms - anyone seen any advance info this year ?

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12260

                #8
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                I have seen the old prospectus format (dad has kept all the old ones) - far more inviting, readable and interesting as well as a lot cheaper! Easier to grasp the season, somehow!
                I've got every Proms Prospectus/Guide since 1971. In those days they didn't exactly go for the deluxe look weighed down with articles and masses of adverts, hence the cheaper price I'd guess, but they gave you all you needed to know.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6459

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                  I've got every Proms Prospectus/Guide since 1971. In those days they didn't exactly go for the deluxe look weighed down with articles and masses of adverts, hence the cheaper price I'd guess, but they gave you all you needed to know.

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                  • HighlandDougie
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3093

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    Usually by now some of the touring orchestras websites will have let the cat out of the bag about playing at the Proms - anyone seen any advance info this year ?
                    If only because I've been looking wistfully at the Summer Lucerne Festival programme (at those prices, I can but dream), I see that the Boston Symphony is appearing as part of a September 2018 European Tour. The web is maddeningly free of any further info but the Proms seem possible, sometime from 2 September onwards. Two good programmes, both conducted by Andris Nelsons: DSCH 4 & Bernstein's Serenade (with Baiba Skride); Mahler 3 (with Susan Graham). As well as Lucerne, they'll also be playing in Leipzig.

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                    • bluestateprommer
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3010

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                      If only because I've been looking wistfully at the Summer Lucerne Festival programme (at those prices, I can but dream), I see that the Boston Symphony is appearing as part of a September 2018 European Tour. The web is maddeningly free of any further info but the Proms seem possible, sometime from 2 September onwards. Two good programmes, both conducted by Andris Nelsons: DSCH 4 & Bernstein's Serenade (with Baiba Skride); Mahler 3 (with Susan Graham). As well as Lucerne, they'll also be playing in Leipzig.
                      I had the same general thought, namely because if only on the basis of last year, Lucerne was a much better predictor of visiting orchestras to The Proms compared to Edinburgh. 4 ensembles featured at the 2017 Lucerne Festival summer series also featured at the 2017 Proms. For 2018, besides the Boston SO that HD mentioned, the other visiting orchestras to Lucerne who did not play The Proms last year, and are thus the most likely for also going to the 2018 Proms, are:

                      1. WEDO / Barenboim
                      2. Berlin Phil / K. Petrenko
                      3. Rotterdam PO / YNS
                      4. Munich Phil / Gergiev
                      5. St. Petersburg Phil / Temirkanov

                      While I have a habit of making incorrect predictions, the most likely attendees look to be WEDO and the Munich Phil, since it's pretty much a given that Barenboim and Gergiev each get a Proms date each season. However, I can certainly see Boston getting a date, maybe even two, with perhaps Mahler 3 as "the real Last Night" on September 7. I can also rationalize the Rotterdam Phil getting a date, because they haven't been to The Proms in several years and this is YNS' final season as their chief conductor.

                      The only sure thing for programming now looks to be the Anna Meredith work Five Telegrams, which is to be presented both at The Proms and the EIF:

                      Five Telegrams was a unique collaboration between Anna Meredith, one of the country’s most exciting contemporary composers – widely acclaimed for her album Varmints,...

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #12
                        Yannick Nézet-Séguin, Valery Gergiev and Kirill Petrenko are must-sees as far as I'm concerned.

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                        • Barbirollians
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11709

                          #13
                          One thing I would love to see is Beethoven 9 returning to the penultimate night of the season.

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                          • Hornbill
                            Full Member
                            • Feb 2018
                            • 4

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                            ..but not such happy thoughts of a Saturday morning desperately jabbing at a computer.

                            As regards the cost, my earliest edition of the Proms Prospectus (1972) has no price marked; but the 1973 one cost 15p. Does anyone have an inflation calculator?
                            I agree the annual Saturday morning ritual is quite a trial though it has not been as traumatic in the last couple of years. They do seem to have got their act together.

                            Does anyone know exactly which Saturday the online bookings will open?

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30329

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hornbill View Post
                              Does anyone know exactly which Saturday the online bookings will open?
                              These were the 2017 dates. Can it be worked out from that?

                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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