Prom 75 - 9.09.17: Last Night of the Proms

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20569

    #16
    Originally posted by Prommer View Post
    "O Lord our God arise,
    Scatter her enemies
    And make them fall;
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On Thee our hopes we fix,
    God save us all!"
    That verse is in Elgar's arrangement too. There are even worse verses to be found.

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    • Prommer
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1258

      #17
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      That verse is in Elgar's arrangement too. There are even worse verses to be found.
      Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
      May by thy mighty aid,
      Victory bring.
      May he sedition hush,
      and like a torrent rush,
      Rebellious Scots to crush,
      God save the King.

      Not sure that would pass muster in the round Britain Hello Glasgow whirligig...

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37578

        #18
        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
        We need to take back control of our comma.
        Not our colon?

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        • LHC
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          • Jan 2011
          • 1555

          #19
          Originally posted by Prommer View Post
          Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
          May by thy mighty aid,
          Victory bring.
          May he sedition hush,
          and like a torrent rush,
          Rebellious Scots to crush,
          God save the King.

          Not sure that would pass muster in the round Britain Hello Glasgow whirligig...
          Although our Scottish brethren love to take offence at this alleged verse, it has never been part of the National Anthem. If it was ever performed at all, it would have been during the short period (3 months or so) in 1745 at the time that Marshal Wade was fighting the Jacobite rebels (and at a time when most Scots were opposed to Jacobites, and so would have been supportive of Marshall Wade's efforts).

          The three 'official' verses of the National Anthem have always been largely the same as they are now.
          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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          • pastoralguy
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7737

            #20
            Back in the days when CfP records were sponsored by tobacco companies!

            In fact, does anyone remember the Sanderling/Philharmonia set of the Beethoven Symphonies that were boxed in the same bright red livery as the du Maurier cigarette packets?!

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11667

              #21
              Lucy Crowe and Nina Stemme two of my favourite sopranos on one night .

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              • Prommer
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                • Dec 2010
                • 1258

                #22
                Me too!

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                • Alain MarĂ©chal
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1286

                  #23
                  Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post

                  In fact, does anyone remember the Sanderling/Philharmonia set of the Beethoven Symphonies that were boxed in the same bright red livery as the du Maurier cigarette packets?!
                  I do not need to remember it, I still have it. Similar packaging for Tchaikovsky Ballets conducted by John Lanchbery.

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                  • Alain MarĂ©chal
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1286

                    #24
                    Originally posted by LHC View Post

                    The three 'official' verses of the National Anthem have always been largely the same as they are now.
                    Consider yourselves fortunate you are not expected to learn the same anthem in three languages and sing them on the appropriate occasion. There is, fortunately, a one-verse option which scrambles all three languages.

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12232

                      #25
                      As usual, I approach the LNOtP with a sinking feeling, mostly because it is the Last Night but also because it's another season gone all too soon.

                      Much as I dislike the flag-waving nonsense I do, at the same time, feel a strange compulsion to watch on TV. It is, like Remembrance Sunday, one of the markers of the passing year and it would seem odd without it.

                      Mind, as Barbirollians has pointed out, with Lucy Crowe and Nina Stemme on hand it will be worth watching.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        That verse is in Elgar's arrangement too. There are even worse verses to be found.
                        And even worse "verse" in another of Elgar's works methinks

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #27
                          I don't know the Bliss version either of the National Anthem. Be good to hear. I do rather like Gordon Jacob's arrangement, though, with that strong fanfare at the beginning.

                          MrsBBM does rather like this night. As she has a penchant for the more popular items/ I suppose when it come to HW's Fantasy on British Sea Songs, they'll be doing the rounds?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Petrushka
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12232

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            I suppose when it come to HW's Fantasy on British Sea Songs, they'll be doing the rounds?
                            I dare say. Hordes of people jumping up and down and waving at the camera Surely not going to have that 'Hello, Glasgow/Belfast/Swansea' routine again are we? It's like hearing the same stale joke repeated over and over again. As Sam Goldwyn might have said:'Let's have some new cliches'.
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37578

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post

                              MrsBBM does rather like this night.
                              And yet, you are still together...

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                              • pastoralguy
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7737

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                As usual, I approach the LNOtP with a sinking feeling, mostly because it is the Last Night but also because it's another season gone all too soon.

                                Much as I dislike the flag-waving nonsense I do, at the same time, feel a strange compulsion to watch on TV. It is, like Remembrance Sunday, one of the markers of the passing year and it would seem odd without it.

                                Mind, as Barbirollians has pointed out, with Lucy Crowe and Nina Stemme on hand it will be worth watching.
                                Yes, I feel that way too. And I always remember that this concert is repeated on Radio3 on Hogmanay so the end coincides with the the ringing of the bells that herald the start of the New Year.

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