Prom 55 - 25.08.17: Classical Music of India and Pakistan

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20569

    Prom 55 - 25.08.17: Classical Music of India and Pakistan

    22:15 Friday 25 August 2017 ON TV
    Royal Albert Hall


    Pandit Budhaditya Mukherjee (sitar)
    Soumen Nandy (tabla)

    Kumaresh Rajagopalan (Carnatic violin)
    Jayanthi Kumaresh (Saraswati veena)
    Anantha R. Krishnan (mridangam)

    Fareed Ayaz, Abu Muhammad Qawwal & Brothers

    The Proms marks the 70th anniversary of partition and independence on the Indian subcontinent with a concert curated by Darbar Trust, producers of Darbar Festival, representing the classical music of India and Pakistan. Explore the region's diverse musical culture in performances celebrating three very different traditions. India's great maestro, Pandit Budhaditya Mukherjee performs ragas on the iconic sitar from the Hindustani music of North India, while South India's Carnatic music is more strongly melodic, coloured by the distinctive timbres of the Carnatic violin and veena. The Sufi music of Pakistan provides an ecstatic climax to this Late Night Prom, weaving rich, mesmeric tapestries of sound.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 23-08-17, 11:04.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20569

    #2
    I can understand the importance of the 70th anniversary of independence, but should the BBC be celebrating the partitioning of India as though it were a good thing?

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37580

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      I can understand the importance of the 70th anniversary of independence, but should the BBC be celebrating the partitioning of India as though it were a good thing?
      Not sure that is their intention?

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30232

        #4
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Not sure that is their intention?
        No, it does say "marks" the anniversary rather than "celebrates".
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #5
          I have close family ties, with The Raj. My maternal grandfather was a colonel in the old Green Howards regiment, when they were stationed out in Poohna(new spelling Puhna, or has that changed?) I have a lifetime of love for this music but never have investigated this genre, properly.
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12958

            #6
            Proms: Classical Music of Pakistan and India 25.viii.17

            Proms 55:

            The BBC broadcast a Proms many, many years ago in the later 80's [ I think ] -got it on tape cassette!! - that started about 10-ish and went on until nigh on 3 a.m.

            Hearing tonight's wonderful music resonating in the real stillness of the RAH brought back so many memories of travel in India and the awe one feels for both the subtlety and sheer fun and [I]joie de vivre/I]e, the transcendental inner voices, the concentration and ambition of the sub-continent's richest traditions.

            Terrific stuff.

            Classical music from north and south India, plus qawwali from Pakistan at the Proms.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #7
              Earlier than that, DracoM - 1981:

              The world's greatest classical music festival - stunning performances and collaborations.


              ... and 1983:

              The world's greatest classical music festival - stunning performances and collaborations.


              Starting at 11:00pm and ending at 7:00am. Those were the days!
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12958

                #8
                Gosh, yes!! That's it - the 7.00 a.m. one - YES!! Thx for the links!!!! Wonderful!

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                • Colonel Danby
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 356

                  #9
                  This, indeed, is marvellous music for a late night prom, combining the treasures of Indian and Pakistan ragas etc. Only a shame that I had to content myself with listening at home on the wireless rather than being in the Albert Hall in person. Ah well...

                  By the way Draco, I think I was there at the concert you mentioned (and mid eighties is not that long ago!) of asian music which lasted at least until 3 or 4 am, and realising that Haitink was to conduct Shostakovich on the following day, a whole load of us callow youths said what the hell, and started to queue straight away, refreshed with ample supplies of electric soup. But then these were the time when you really had to prom and stay there, rather than get a raffle ticket, sod off to work and turn up at 6 o'clock and demand your place on the front row of the arena. Or indeed, if you wanted to get into the Last Night of the Proms, you had to sleep out under the RAH for three days. Those were the days. Rant over...

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                  • DracoM
                    Host
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 12958

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Earlier than that, DracoM - 1981:

                    The world's greatest classical music festival - stunning performances and collaborations.


                    ... and 1983:

                    The world's greatest classical music festival - stunning performances and collaborations.


                    Starting at 11:00pm and ending at 7:00am. Those were the days!

                    Yes, indeed, BUT AFAICS, no actual music? If only somewhere three was an archive of the actual music.....!!

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12958

                      #11
                      << I think I was there at the concert you mentioned (and mid eighties is not that long ago!) of asian music which lasted at least until 3 or 4 am, and realising that Haitink was to conduct Shostakovich on the following day, a whole load of us callow youths said what the hell, and started to queue straight away, refreshed with ample supplies of electric soup >>



                      Brings back so many memories...............!!

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12
                        I attended and was, by and large, pretty disappointed. The sound reinforcement was both excessive and poorly balanced. I think it quite likely that the home listener got the better deal.

                        Re. the 1981 all-nighter, some of it can be found on Youtube. A wholly superior experience, as far as I am concerned.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                          Yes, indeed, BUT AFAICS, no actual music? If only somewhere three was an archive of the actual music.....!!
                          No, sorry - the links are to the Proms Archive, which gives just the details of dates, works and performers.

                          The youTube extract (a mere 48mins worth) from 1981 is here:

                          No other recordings of this. You won't find it anywhere else. Vilayat Khan on Sitar, and Avtar Singh on Tabla. Recording from an all night concert at the BBC...


                          ... and a shorter (20min) extract from the 1983 event here:

                          BBC Proms 83: The 89th season of Henry Wood Promenade ConcertsRoyal Albert Hall, LondonAll-night concert of music from IndiaSaturday 3rd September 1983 at 11...


                          I don't know if the Beeb has kept the complete recordings of either event - I wouldn't mind a repeat run on Through the Night some time. (Another all-nighter at the Proms would be welcome, too; I still remember the experience of those astonishing events - I could attend neither, but heard both at home.)
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12958

                            #14
                            Even more grovelling thanks for these llinks.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #15
                              First the good news. I have reel-to-reel recordings from FM of both all-night Proms. I also have cassette copies of the 1981 performances, and CD-R transfers therefrom. Now the bad. I am unable to play the reel-to-reels. I will dig out what I have that I can make available to hear, somehow. This may take some time.

                              If you Google zakir hussain 1981 Prom tabla youtube, you will find several items from that Prom.

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