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Prom 45 - 18.08.17: Mahler – ‘Resurrection’ Symphony
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Originally posted by Ferretfancy View PostIt's a little known fact that when Mahler was scoring the Resurrection he suffered a mild attack of gout. Every time he felt a twinge he added a soft suspended cymbal. So there you are, more fuel for the cult.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostHaemorrhoids. (And quite a serious "attack" at that - he required surgery.)
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Originally posted by Simon B View Post.. I arrived just as the stewards were turning literally hundreds of people away from the standing day queues.
For what it's worth, which isn't much, I found the first movement somewhat disjointed, but it certainly came together from there on.
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Originally posted by PhilipT View PostI am sorry to hear that. It's painful to report this, but in the front rows of the Arena there was some, um, failure to cooperate with the stewards in the matter of standing up and moving forwards, despite repeated pleas from a bluecoat. It was an argument I tried hard to keep out of, but IMHO there is no doubt that in this case the stewards were right and certain prommers were very much in the wrong.
For what it's worth, which isn't much, I found the first movement somewhat disjointed, but it certainly came together from there on.
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Originally posted by Ferretfancy View PostThe problem is that different listeners choose positions in the Arena that work for them. I'm very reluctant to move to a position which is too close for me. The solution is simple, I hold my ground and let others move in front of me, which surely meets most requirements. The real offenders are the ones who appear from nowhere and barge in just as the music begins.
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Originally posted by Darkbloom View PostI'm sure anyone who's been to more than a handful of proms witnesses some real set-tos in the arena, or in the queue. I think part of the problem is that the stewards are usually quite young and don't have the authority to sort people out. Twenty years ago this sort of thing happened a lot less. I recall a concert a couple of years ago where two people were eyeball to eyeball throughout an entire piece because someone pushed in. All very entertaining, as long as you're not involved."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by Ferretfancy View PostThe real offenders are the ones who appear from nowhere and barge in just as the music begins.
Originally posted by Darkbloom View PostI think part of the problem is that the stewards are usually quite young and don't have the authority to sort people out.
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Complete Mahler Symphony Cycle
Would anyone care to suggest a suitable set of all Mahler of which to make a (80th birthday) present to my brother, who does not have very hi hifi, and who would be perfectly content with a version that is not 'the latest thing'? With or without Das Lied, or the Tenth. (Mid price preferred.)
Many thanks
kb
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostComplete Mahler Symphony Cycle
Would anyone care to suggest a suitable set of all Mahler of which to make a (80th birthday) present to my brother, who does not have very hi hifi, and who would be perfectly content with a version that is not 'the latest thing'? With or without Das Lied, or the Tenth. (Mid price preferred.)
Many thanks
kb
The Sinopoli DG set has gone up in price a fair bit, so I would recommend the Bernstein. Excellent remastered sound quality and a great partnership between the NYP & the incomparable Lenny.
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
Inexplicably, no Das Lied, but I think this is still the best Mahler Cycle to be had - not a duff performance/recording in the set, and the Second, Third, Sixth, and Eighth are all as good as it gets.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by seabright View PostI wonder if there's anyone here who, in their much younger Promming days, remember the Proms Premiere of the work with Stokowski and Janet Baker? ... She was absolutely glorious, as was soprano Rae Woodland. Luckily the broadcast was issued on CD ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv1HMlTU0R0
Yes, I was there. I was 16 and it was my very first Mahler concert. The sound was ear-shatteringly overwhelming and the memory of that night has been etched on my memory ever since. And Stokey giving us an encore of the final chorus acclamation as well!O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
Inexplicably, no Das Lied, but I think this is still the best Mahler Cycle to be had - not a duff performance/recording in the set, and the Second, Third, Sixth, and Eighth are all as good as it gets.
Prompted me to spin #8 - agreed, up with the best
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