Prom 28 - 5.08.17: National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Prom 28 - 5.08.17: National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain

    19:30 Saturday 5 August 2017 ON TV
    Royal Albert Hall

    Francisco Coll: Mural London première
    Thomas Adès: Polaris
    Igor Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring


    National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain
    Thomas Adès conductor

    Hear some of the UK's finest young musical talent, directed by composer and conductor Thomas Adès, in a bold programme of works that push the orchestra to its technical and sonic limits. Adès's own Polaris, subtitled 'A Voyage for Orchestra', takes inspiration from the North Star, conjuring a vast interstellar landscape that unfolds from a simple piano theme into a massive sonic spiral. Francisco Coll's Mural, tonight receiving its London premiere, is another richly textured, large-scale work - a 'grotesque symphony, in which Dionysus meets Apollo'. The concert's climax is Stravinsky's ballet score The Rite of Spring, whose frenzied rhythms and provocative harmonies prompted a legendary riot at its Paris premiere.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 02-08-17, 08:30.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    It's aways good to welcome the NYOGM, though I do wish the presenters could avoid the patronising gush that the presenter(s) will surely throw at us, especially on the revised version.

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    • Hornspieler
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      • Sep 2012
      • 1847

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      19:30 Saturday 5 August 2017 ON TV
      Royal Albert Hall

      Francisco Coll: Mural London première
      Thomas Adès: Polaris
      Igor Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring


      National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain
      Thomas Adès conductor

      Hear some of the UK's finest young musical talent, directed by composer and conductor Thomas Adès, in a bold programme of works that push the orchestra to its technical and sonic limits. Adès's own Polaris, subtitled 'A Voyage for Orchestra', takes inspiration from the North Star, conjuring a vast interstellar landscape that unfolds from a simple piano theme into a massive sonic spiral. Francisco Coll's Mural, tonight receiving its London premiere, is another richly textured, large-scale work - a 'grotesque symphony, in which Dionysus meets Apollo'. The concert's climax is Stravinsky's ballet score The Rite of Spring, whose frenzied rhythms and provocative harmonies prompted a legendary riot at its Paris premiere.
      I shall spare my ears the agony of listening to that.:

      Rite of Spring?

      Looks more like Wrong of Programme to me!

      HS

      "Mismatch of the Day?"
      Last edited by Hornspieler; 02-08-17, 11:30.

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #4
        I do find that, when youngsters are concerned. We rehearse them week after week in term time, plus*some!) of them practice by themselves, so they should be well versed in the music's structure etc....
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • bluestateprommer
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3009

          #5
          The NYOGB and TA just gave this same concert at the Snape Maltings:

          Thomas Adès led the hugely talented National Youth Orchestra in the UK premiere of Francisco Coll’s Mural, plus The Rite of Spring and his own Polaris


          I've never been to Aldeburgh, but presumably the larger expanse of the RAH will make the loudest moments in the works much less ear-splitting for all involved.

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          • kernelbogey
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5746

            #6
            Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
            [...]Rite of Spring? Looks more like Wrong of Programme to me!:[...]
            Surely a Youth Orchestra is entirely appropriate for ritual sacrifice?

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            • kernelbogey
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5746

              #7
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              19:30 Saturday 5 August 2017 ON TV...Royal Albert Hall
              This prom does not appear in tonight's tv schedules, so I assume is being recorded for later transmission. Is there a BBC listing of televised proms, live and as-live?

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10941

                #8
                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                This prom does not appear in tonight's tv schedules, so I assume is being recorded for later transmission. Is there a BBC listing of televised proms, live and as-live?
                The Proms Guide says that it (this concert) is being broadcast on BBC Four on 6 August.

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                • jayne lee wilson
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 10711

                  #9
                  Intriguing Part One tonight....

                  Coming across in its 13-minute span as something like two crescendos woven from continuously flowing melodic lines, with a calmer reflective passage between them - but with a startlingly unexpected ending, ​Polaris sounds something like a Scandinavian nature-poem- night skies and dark seas - with a glitteringly brilliant orchestration that should work well in the RAH….

                  At least that’s what it sounded like this afternoon, when I heard it for the first time in my life…
                  I'll be keen to see how my impressions change later...

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                  • EdgeleyRob
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12180

                    #10
                    I have a cd of the Rite of Spring played by NYOGB conducted by Rattle.
                    It's rather good IMVHO

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                      I have a cd of the Rite of Spring played by NYOGB conducted by Rattle.
                      It's rather good IMVHO
                      I think there may possibly have been one or two personnel changes in the orchestra since then.

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10941

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                        I have a cd of the Rite of Spring played by NYOGB conducted by Rattle.
                        It's rather good IMVHO
                        The personnel have changed a bit since that recording was made, though, ER (1977).


                        PS: Bryn got there first!
                        Note to self: remember to refresh before posting!
                        Last edited by Pulcinella; 05-08-17, 18:10. Reason: PS added!

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12180

                          #13
                          Yes I realise that

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                          • bluestateprommer
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3009

                            #14
                            From hearing the 1st half, the NYOGB were obviously on very strong form, all the more so with 2 contemporary works on the program in a situation where probably most adult orchestras would be thrown for a loop. As far as the works themselves, the Coll struck me as the more "generic modern music" of the two, while the Ades did have a more restrained start, where the opening piano sort of sounded like "Here Comes The Sun" for a moment, IMHO. I should give each another listen down the line.

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              #15
                              PROM 28 PART ONE. ADÈS, COLL. NYPO/ADÈS. (R3 CONCERT SOUND).

                              On a very spacious CS webcast, Adès, evidently making the most of those wide-open spaces and remote brass positionings, seemed to make more of the early quasi-climax in his Polaris, (around 3-4 minutes in) on the way to the first of those two big crescendi (at about 8' and at the end). On the recording (which I played again just after the Prom) the earlier one feels more like a preparation on the way to the first, cymbal-topped climax.
                              Or tonight, you could hear the piece as 3 climaxes, each one louder (or at least longer) than the last, with those beautiful, lyrical episodes in between. Orchestrally it was just a shade de-focussed compared to the LSO Live disc, but rather more atmospheric and evocative - the Barbican is its usual dry, slightly fun-spoiling self. Interesting contrast though.

                              It's hard to make much of a piece with such explosive, concentrated invention and dazzling multi-colours as Coll's Mural on a single hearing. Clearly laid out in 5 very concise movements (1,2 and 4 very confrontational, 3 and 5 slower, calmer, then growing more ominous), it had a very symphonic-poem-like character, leading me to wonder if there are, or were at any point, movement-titles around the Dionysus/Apollo theme mentioned in the program. I did wonder if those Rite of Spring-type rhythmic attacks were a little obvious in their derivation, and like bsp thought the composer-voice a bit anonymous, as if still searching for its true character - but who knows how these things may seem after more hearings? I've often found such influences to sound better integrated, once the whole shape of a work is better grasped.
                              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 05-08-17, 20:52.

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