Prom 27 - 4.08.17: Ella and Dizzy: A Centenary Tribute

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Are you sure you don't want to delete this post?

I think it reflects the opinions of many listeners, for whom "melody" (as they might call it - they mean "tunes") is the most important feature of Music. But it is ... interesting ... that Hs, who sternly lectured Forumistas at the beginning of the Proms season that they should not post "prejudiced" comments, has himself posted so many prejudiced comments on the programmes; literally so, with the NYOGB, by declaring his intention not to bother listening to concerts.

He is entitled to his ... opinions ... of course; but it is sad that he fails to live up to the strictures on fairness that he demanded from the rest of us.

[MrGongGong]

I think it reflects the opinions of many listeners, for whom "melody" (as they might call it - they mean "tunes") is the most important feature of Music. But it is ... interesting ... that Hs, who sternly lectured Forumistas at the beginning of the Proms season that they should not post "prejudiced" comments, has himself posted so many prejudiced comments on the programmes; literally so, with the NYOGB, by declaring his intention not to bother listening to concerts.

He is entitled to his ... opinions ... of course; but it is sad that he fails to live up to the strictures on fairness that he demanded from the rest of us.

That's the trouble with grown ups, they always say one thing and do another

Here's some horn for you Jazz nerds (but it certainly aint "modern") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sLExRsmic

[agingjb]

For me, modern jazz around 1960 was Brubeck, Gerry Mulligan, and the MJQ. But I probably was and am mistaken.

[Quarky]

For me, modern jazz around 1960 was Brubeck, Gerry Mulligan, and the MJQ. But I probably was and am mistaken.

In overview, I think that's fair comment. Jazz possibly at its apogee of popularity. "Modern Jazz" refers to that era, I think.

The issue was that Jazz was developing extremely rapidly at that time, and while we were relaxing to "Take 5", Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane and others were in the process of taking apart, and rebuilding the foundations of Jazz.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

In overview, I think that's fair comment. Jazz possibly at its apogee of popularity. "Modern Jazz" refers to that era, I think.

As referred to by the thirty-year-old C A E Berry, in 1957, perhaps:

I have no kick against modern jazz
Unless they try to play it too darn fast
And change the beauty of the melody
Until it sounds just like a symphony

The issue was that Jazz was developing extremely rapidly at that time, and while we were relaxing to "Take 5", Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane and others were in the process of taking apart, and rebuilding the foundations of Jazz.

[Quarky]

.

saxophonists Dexter Gordon and John Coltrane, who waggle their fingers all over the keys and have no idea of what is coming next.


HS

You mean YOU have no idea of what is coming next?? Just wait for it HS, don't anticipate. In the meantime, keep on taking the tablets!

[Hornspieler]

CGR, just out of interest what is modern jazz? I had an idea of what Modern Jazz was in the 60s, but 50 plus years on, has the definition changed? ...and if it hasn't changed is it really still modern?

Actually, in the 1950s it was called "Progressive Jazz" .

You now have a choice between Trad Jazz and Modern Jazz.

I know which of the two my contempories prefer to listen to.

HS (you can't insult me - I've been insulted by experts)

[MrGongGong]

You now have a choice between Trad Jazz and Modern Jazz.
:

And all the others you fail to mention
Not forgetting these things

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07q7lzc

and these



I bet your "contempories" like this (wonderful stuff indeed )

[french frank]

I know which of the two my contempories prefer to listen to.

All of them? Or just those who prefer classical music?

[Stunsworth]

.Modern Jazz is the likes of trumpeter Miles Davis - lauded by his fans but quite unable to play more than 4 bars before running out of ideas and saxophonists Dexter Gordon and John Coltrane, who waggle their fingers all over the keys and have no idea of what is coming next.

I guess we'll have to disagree on this one.

[Serial_Apologist]

All of them? Or just those who prefer classical music?

All five syllables of them.