Proms 2017

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I must admit this is the first year I'm not as excited about the Proms as I used to be. We're probably going to get much the same music as we always get every year, that we can listen to via recordings anyway. Obviously I'll take a look when the season is launched, but I'm not expecting anything too exciting.

- which was the point of my #7.

And the sarcastic posts above ridiculing those of us who want a broader Proms repertoire are off-putting as well. And having to turn the radio down to maintain silence between movements. After years of trying to put up with it all, I've finally decided it might not be worth the hassle.

I cannot see any "sarcastic" posts, m267. My own comments were self-detrimental (I am the one who is told off year after year by fellow Forumistas because I always complain about the lack of real New Music, or the dearth of repertoire from before 1600) having realized that I was being pessimistic about a season before any hint of the programme has been announced. I got to the state of deciding that the Proms weren't worthy of the hassle some years ago.

Those of you who want the umpteenth performance of The Rite of Spring, any number of Beethoven, Mahler and Shostakovich symphonies, and La Mer, you've won.

I don't doubt that you (and I) will be proved right in this prediction - but if I didn't sugar my pessimism with at least an element of humour, then I'd feel that there'd be no hope left for me. For the moment, there is at least the glimmer of hope that the complete Carceri d'Invenzione cycle will feature in a late-night Prom - and another devoted to Music from the Eton Choirbook. I'm making the most I can of the moment while it lasts.

[french frank]

I don't doubt that you (and I) will be proved right in this prediction - but if I didn't sugar my pessimism with at least an element of humour, then I'd feel that there'd be no hope left for me. For the moment, there is at least the glimmer of hope that the complete Carceri d'Invenzione cycle will feature in a late-night Prom - and another devoted to Music from the Eton Choirbook. I'm making the most I can of the moment while it lasts.

Though of course there may be a number of departures from the usual without necessarily filling the individual heart with gladness. In fact they may do quite the opposite.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Though of course there may be a number of departures from the usual without necessarily filling the individual heart with gladness. In fact they may do quite the opposite.

Indeed - but until I know this, I'm breathing in the helium of optimism. The hopeful journey might well develop a flat tyre by the time we reach the M6, but for the moment the B roads of hope have not yet led to the contraflow of reality.

[french frank]

Indeed - but until I know this, I'm breathing in the helium of optimism. The hopeful journey might well develop a flat tyre by the time we reach the M6, but for the moment the B roads of hope have not yet led to the contraflow of reality.

Poetry! Sheer poetry!

[Petrushka]

The Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and Manfred Honeck are on a European Tour (including England, 'to be announced later')in September and likely Proms dates seem to be Sept 7 & 8.

Anyone who remembers their 2011 Proms will be looking forward to this visit.

https://pittsburghsymphony.org/event/12175/2017-european-festivals-tour-lucerne-switzerland

[cloughie]

The Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and Manfred Honeck are on a European Tour (including England, 'to be announced later')in September and likely Proms dates seem to be Sept 7 & 8.

Anyone who remembers their 2011 Proms will be looking forward to this visit.

https://pittsburghsymphony.org/event...ne-switzerland

I see he's recorded Tchaik 5 & 6 - how long before we get Manfred conducts Manfred?

[pastoralguy]

?..how long before we get Manfred conducts Manfred?

[BBMmk2]

I want what you're on.

Just being me myself I! :)

[BBMmk2]

Havergal Brian's Gothic again!! Mahler's 8th!! A cycle of RVW Symphonies, Shostakovich Symphonies and miscellaneous orchestral works, a cycle of Bax and Bantock's orchestral music!!!!

A cycle of Wagner & Richard Strauss operas. Tchaikovsky opera and orchestral music, with a thunderous 1812, repleat with canon and mortar effects and choir with bands, dotted around The Gods! :)

[EnemyoftheStoat]

...a thunderous 1812, repleat with canon and mortar effects and choir with bands, dotted around The Gods! :)

Did you miss this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/emfv2m

[BBMmk2]

Did you miss this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/emfv2m

I'd forgotten!

[Serial_Apologist]

Havergal Brian's Gothic again!!

Perhaps under present constraints one of the Radio 3 New Millennium artists could be prevailed upon to come up with a chamber version of this magnificent but overscored work. Or your good self?

[BBMmk2]

Perhaps under present constraints one of the Radio 3 New Millennium artists could be prevailed upon to come up with a chamber version of this magnificent but overscored work. Or your good self?

You may never know! :)

[Richard Barrett]

"too much 'Pop'"/"wrong sort of New Music"/"not enough Early Music"/"yet again nothing by [enter name of favourite British Symphonist writing in the 1940s"/"I was waiting seventy-three hours to get onto the website"/"they clapped between movements"

Aren't you forgetting "the RAH is a cr@p concert venue"?

[teamsaint]

Aren't you forgetting "the RAH is a cr@p concert venue"?

And since Ferney is likely right about the moans, ( and most of us will agree with at least some of them), I may, if just to be contrary ,start an " I am looking forward to hearing the VPO/BPO/name of world famous soloist/conductor for £5/enjoying great music in relaxed conditions/ taking in a world class free museum and a concert on the same day/ meeting fellow boarders at a concert/seeing some of my license fee going towards something sort of worth bothering with /reasons to be cheerful part 4" thread.

FWIW, which isn't much, I am " Glass half full" where the Proms is concerned.

Oh, and I'll bet there's no " The" in RAH" these days......

( actually there is, a slightly apologetic " The".....for now.....)