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  • PJPJ
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1461

    #61
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    I guess they would have been played by a Rubbra band...
    BTW, Katie D pronounced his name as ROO-bra - is that correct? The second person who tried to teach me to play the organ, had been a pupil of Rubbra and referred to him with the short (southern) U.

    It would be good to have at least one of his major works aired at the 2017 Proms. He seems to be more neglected than ever, though he is well represented in the record catalogue.

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    • Pulcinella
      Host
      • Feb 2014
      • 10927

      #62
      Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
      BTW, Katie D pronounced his name as ROO-bra - is that correct? The second person who tried to teach me to play the organ, had been a pupil of Rubbra and referred to him with the short (southern) U.

      It would be good to have at least one of his major works aired at the 2017 Proms. He seems to be more neglected than ever, though he is well represented in the record catalogue.
      I'm pretty sure it's Rub, as in rub-a-dub dub.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26536

        #63
        Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
        Katie D pronounced his name as ROO-bra - is that correct?
        It's a pretty safe bet that any 'foreign' or 'foreign-looking' name is not pronounced in accordance with KD's pretentious stabs in the dark. The other day, she frenchified 'Leon Goossens' ("Goo-song")
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Cockney Sparrow
          Full Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 2284

          #64
          OTOH, I always found Sue Lawley's self regarding delivery,correctly, of such words annoyed me intensely as well. (Split second pause - "listen to me, I know how to pronounce these words....." - special tone and accent :- etc etc). Poor presenters, they can't please us all (but some for sure more comprehensively despised than others).

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          • PJPJ
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1461

            #65
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            It's a pretty safe bet that any 'foreign' or 'foreign-looking' name is not pronounced in accordance with KD's pretentious stabs in the dark. The other day, she frenchified 'Leon Goossens' ("Goo-song")
            I agree. It is sometimes breathtakingly extraordinary.

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16122

              #66
              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              I'm pretty sure it's Rub, as in rub-a-dub dub.
              It is. Should the presenter's name be pronounced "Durham", "Dirham", "Dire-ham"?...

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37683

                #67
                Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                BTW, Katie D pronounced his name as ROO-bra - is that correct?
                And there was me thinking she was referring to something supportive...

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10927

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  And there was me thinking she was referring to something supportive...
                  With sales in Australia jumping ahead of those elsewhere?

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25209

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    With sales in Australia jumping ahead of those elsewhere?
                    you actually aren't helping this situation, Pulcers.

                    Anyway, back to the Proms, perhaps Graham Fitkin, (the man with the disappearing Cello Concerto ) will get another crack at the big time.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16122

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      And there was me thinking she was referring to something supportive...
                      As in "never knowingly underwired", peut-être?...

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25209

                        #71
                        Not quite on topic, but only one Schnittke symphony, No2, in 1990, has ever been performed at the Proms.

                        About time that something was done about that.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                          It is. Should the presenter's name be pronounced "Durham", "Dirham", "Dire-ham"?...
                          It should be pronounced "Martin" followed by "Handley", though there are other suitable pronunciations

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7759

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            It should be pronounced "Martin" followed by "Handley", though there are other suitable pronunciations

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                            • maestro267
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 355

                              #74
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              Not quite on topic, but only one Schnittke symphony, No2, in 1990, has ever been performed at the Proms.

                              About time that something was done about that.
                              Hear hear! A piece I listened to for the first time last night.

                              One of the most glaring and unjustified omissions, as far as British composers are concerned, is Sir Arnold Bax. For one example, his Third Symphony, performed 9 times between 1930 and 1944, including every year between '30 and '34. No performances in the 72 years since. Disgraceful.

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #75
                                I think what would be great to see is conductors perform music that their forebears conducted, and have great respect for?
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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