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  • PhilipT
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 422

    Hmmm. Last guaranteed entry for Season Ticket holders is now 30 minutes before the start (unless you bought your ticket online, it seems); "Queuing arrangements will differ from previous years .."; getting home after the Rach. Vespers and St John Passion is going to be tricky. I can't see myself going to many this year.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25192

      Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
      Curious - not on my browser - renders Prom 32 under Wed 9th which matches what the printed guide says.
      I've just refreshed the page, and it now shows as you say.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Prommer
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 1258

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        I think there must be some mistake in the website
        the La Monte Young seems to be missing
        no John Cage
        no Feldman
        no Eliane Radigue
        nothing to remember Pauline Oliveros ?

        and it seems mostly to be music by dead white men ?????
        Yes, of course, just the wrong ones!
        Last edited by Prommer; 20-04-17, 17:39.

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          Simon Rattle et al, doing Gurreleider My highlight!!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Prommer
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1258

            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
            Simon Rattle et al, doing Gurreleider My highlight!!
            Yup.

            My last one had H. Hotter...

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            • Demetrius
              Full Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 276

              In regard to overall trends, the creeping comeback of the 18th Century continues; there is a decent amount of works by JS Bach and Mozart, 2 Haydn symphonies, a Boccherini Cello Concerto (the 6th perfomance of a Boccherini work in Proms history, the first since 1993). Heinrich Schütz, Palestrina and Monteverdi are there and represent earlier music.

              John Adams gets some recognition. Despite the Elgar "cycle", British music is again a bit underrepresented (ok, the Planets are there too, as usual)

              There are some neglected composers who get their day, however: Lalo, whose work has been performed 133 times at the Proms up to date, the last 2 times being 2002 and 1961, or Taneyev, who has one performance under his belt (1925).

              Shostakovich has a good year, as well. Overall it is a very similar season to 2016.

              Foreseeable highlights in my view: the Barenboim and Haitink concerts, obviously, but also Rattle/LSO Gurrelieder, the 4th chamber music event, the Lalo/Saint-Saens/Franck Proms 42 and 43, Chailly and La Scala in Prom 54, the visits of Concertgebouw, Mariinsky Orchestra, Wiener Philharmoniker.

              Honeck has been held in high regard here, he is visiting. The Freiburg Baroque Orchestra isn't half bad either.

              It isn't a perfect season, but it is a good one, in my opinion. There seem to be quite a few proms with only 2 scheduled pieces, however. Used to be that that happened only if there was a 70-80 minute Mahler or Bruckner symphony in the second half. The Barenboim concerts amount to 80 minutes of music each, Prom 17 barely manages 70 :/

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              • maestro267
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 355

                Season looks alright. Liking the Russian Revolution "thread", especially Prokofiev's dramatic October Cantata. I haven't heard Berlioz' Damnation of Faust either, so that'll be good. Shame British music is so under-represented at Britain's most prominent festival, but what can you do? I do like the inclusion of Vaughan Williams' 9th Symphony though.

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12232

                  Largely positive thoughts coming from me. That opening weekend is a cracking start to the season and a fantastic chance to hear Barenboim in both of the Elgar symphonies and having Haitink and Barenboim on the same day is going to be a real treat. Good to have a new Birtwistle work as well.

                  Looking forward to Maryinski/Gergiev, RCO/Gatti, Gurrelieder/Rattle, Pittsburgh/Honeck and VPO/Harding. Not too keen on VPO/MTT though so might skip that one.

                  Big highlights, then, and a load of concerts I'll listen to on Radio 3 without the wish to be there.

                  A big thumbs up for the LPO/Jurowski programme on Sept 6, a programme of near genius and I'll be there for that one.

                  Let's hope that World War 3 doesn't start up in the meantime.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    So when I look here

                    Another chance to hear broadcasts of selected concerts from the 2017 BBC Proms season.


                    I don't see most of the pieces listed here ?

                    "My highlights of the new works promise to be concertos from Julian Anderson (for piano, 26 July) and Brian Elias (cello, 9 August), a major song cycle from Mark-Anthony Turnage (14 August), and Gerald Barry’s celebration of early revolutionary events in Canada (21 August), along with the London premieres of Mark Simpson’s The Immortal (27 July), and a clutch of new works from Bang on Can composers Julia Wolfe, Michael Gordon and David Lang in the late-night concert by the Bang on a Can Allstars (17 August).

                    The wealth of mainstream orchestral concerts - the foundation of the Proms’ reputation - looks to be as strong as ever.
                    I’ll be interested to hear premieres from a couple of composers who will be unfamiliar to most British concert goers (myself included) – the Swedish Andrea Tarrodi (30 August) and the Finn Lotta Wennäkoski, whose BBC commission Flounce will begin the Last Night."

                    This year’s BBC proms might be the first David Pickard can truly call his own, but the director has not risked changing a successful formula – and there’s plenty to savour in a season that fits in Reformation, revolution, Rodgers and Hammerstein, and Hull


                    So why is that ?
                    Why aren't most of the new pieces listed by composer ?

                    Hopeless

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20569

                      Not too much to whinge about this year, and much to praise.

                      A "Prom" outside London too.
                      A step in the right direction, even if it is one of those gimmicky car park efforts.

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        A step in the right direction, even if it is one of those gimmicky car park efforts.
                        Have you been to one?

                        I suspect not
                        so why not give it a go and speak from experience rather than prejudice ?

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          British Music at the Proms, 2017

                          Tom Coult, new work, (Prom 1)
                          Elgar: First Symphony (Prom 2) Second Symphony (Prom 4) Cockaigne Overture (Prom 13), Enigma Variations (Prom 32), Third Symphony (Prom 51)
                          Birtwistle: Deep Time (Prom 4)
                          Roderick Williams: La Ci Darem (PCM 1)
                          Handel: Water Music (Hull Prom), Israel in Egypt (Prom 23), Arias (Prom 62)
                          Grace Williams: Sea Sketches (Hull Prom)
                          Delius: Summer Night on the River (Hull Prom) On Cooking the First Hero in Spring (Prom 13)
                          Holst The Perfect Fool (Prom 13) The Planets (Prom 14)
                          Britten: Young Persons' Guide (Prom 13) Ballad of Heroes (Prom 320
                          Walton: Facade Suites (Prom 13), Belshazzar's Feast (Prom 30)
                          RVW: Symphony #9 (Prom 14)
                          Julian Anderson: Piano Concerto (Prom 16)
                          Mark Simpson: The Immortal (Prom 17)
                          David Sawer: The greatest Happiness Principle (Prom 20)
                          James MacMillan: Requiem (Prom 21)
                          Thomas Ades: Polaris (Prom 28)
                          Purcell: Jehova (Prom 32)
                          Brian Elias: 'cello Concerto (Prom 32)
                          Judith Weir: The Land of Utz (Southwark Cathedral Prom)
                          Turnage: Hibiki (Prom 39)
                          Jonathan Dove: Chorale Prelude (Prom 47)
                          Cheryl Frances-Hoad: Chorale Prelude (Prom 47)
                          Daniel Saleeb: Chorale Prelude, Toccata (Prom 47)
                          Kate Whitley: I am, I say (Car Park Prom)
                          George Walker: Lyric (Prom 62)
                          Hannah Kendal: The Spark Catchers (Prom 62)
                          PMD: 8 Songs for a Mad King (Wilton Music Hall Prom)
                          Catherine Lamb: New Work (Tate Prom)
                          Cassandra Miller: Guide (Tate Prom)
                          Plus the usual Arne, Elgar, Parry.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Not bad for "under-representation".
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              Tom Coult, new work, (Prom 1)
                              Elgar: First Symphony (Prom 2) Second Symphony (Prom 4) Cockaigne Overture (Prom 13), Enigma Variations (Prom 32), Third Symphony (Prom 51)
                              Birtwistle: Deep Time (Prom 4)
                              Roderick Williams: La Ci Darem (PCM 1)
                              Handel: Water Music (Hull Prom), Israel in Egypt (Prom 23), Arias (Prom 62)
                              Grace Williams: Sea Sketches (Hull Prom)
                              Delius: Summer Night on the River (Hull Prom) On Cooking the First Hero in Spring (Prom 13)
                              Holst The Perfect Fool (Prom 13) The Planets (Prom 14)
                              Britten: Young Persons' Guide (Prom 13) Ballad of Heroes (Prom 320
                              Walton: Facade Suites (Prom 13), Belshazzar's Feast (Prom 30)
                              RVW: Symphony #9 (Prom 14)
                              Julian Anderson: Piano Concerto (Prom 16)
                              Mark Simpson: The Immortal (Prom 17)
                              David Sawer: The greatest Happiness Principle (Prom 20)
                              James MacMillan: Requiem (Prom 21)
                              Thomas Ades: Polaris (Prom 28)
                              Purcell: Jehova (Prom 32)
                              Brian Elias: 'cello Concerto (Prom 32)
                              Judith Weir: The Land of Utz (Southwark Cathedral Prom)
                              Turnage: Hibiki (Prom 39)
                              Jonathan Dove: Chorale Prelude (Prom 47)
                              Cheryl Frances-Hoad: Chorale Prelude (Prom 47)
                              Daniel Saleeb: Chorale Prelude, Toccata (Prom 47)
                              Kate Whitley: I am, I say (Car Park Prom)
                              George Walker: Lyric (Prom 62)
                              Hannah Kendal: The Spark Catchers (Prom 62)
                              PMD: 8 Songs for a Mad King (Wilton Music Hall Prom)
                              Catherine Lamb: New Work (Tate Prom)
                              Cassandra Miller: Guide (Tate Prom)
                              Plus the usual Arne, Elgar, Parry.
                              Thanks

                              The first thing I looked at was "Composers" and almost none of these were listed
                              Still a bit conservative and predictable though IMV

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                Thanks

                                The first thing I looked at was "Composers" and almost none of these were listed
                                Still a bit conservative and predictable though IMV
                                Yes - the Tate Prom looks interesting:

                                Join BBC Radio 3 presenter Sara Mohr-Pietsch and the London Contemporary Orchestra for a specially curated Prom in the industrial surroundings of The Tanks at Tate Modern.


                                ... but otherwise the most exciting new thing seems to have been written by an 82-year-old.

                                I think, though, that the season is a considerable improvement on the beige of last two or three years. Even some classical Indian & Pakistani Music (although not the longed-for all-nighter):

                                We mark the 70th anniversary of partition and independence on the Indian subcontinent by celebrating three contrasting traditions: Hindustani music of North India, South India’s melody-driven Carnatic music and the mesmeric Sufi music of Pakistan.



                                BUT - no Music from before 1600, again
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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