Prom 63: 1.09.16 - Bach: Mass in B minor

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    #61
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    I don't know what evidence there is to encourage toothpaste dynamics in baroque music. We had plenty in this performance of the B minor Mass from the orchestra. The final item on Sunday morning's Breakfast was from Couperin's Quatre Verset. The solo singer was squeezing toothpaste on virtually every note.

    It must have taken years of practice to sound so mannered.
    Apologies for my ignorance but what is toothpaste dynamics?

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #62
      Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
      Apologies for my ignorance but what is toothpaste dynamics?
      An Alpie-ism for the "Baroque swell" (cresc and dim) on a sustained note. As an expressive device, it is wonderful - but can be overused, as with all such "ornamentation" (and, as with all such ornamentation, it does indeed take years of practice).
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        #63
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        An Alpie-ism for the "Baroque swell" (cresc and dim) on a sustained note. As an expressive device, it is wonderful - but can be overused, as with all such "ornamentation" (and, as with all such ornamentation, it does indeed take years of practice).
        Thank you!

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        • ardcarp
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11102

          #64
          Lozenge dynamics?

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          • Bumfluff
            Full Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 30

            #65
            I was in the hall and felt this was smoothed over, bland, and with little drama or 'pointing', which I think is necessary to some of the didactic quality of the music. It seemed far more suited to baroque French repertoire (which I'm not trying to insult!). Ultimately it felt bloodless, although some passion crept in following the Credo, the resurrection etc . But by then I had somewhat lost interest and patience with the performance.

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