Prom 43: 17.08.16 - Martha Argerich/Daniel Barenboim /West–Eastern Divan Orchestra

[Petrushka]

Like many, I suspect, Dawn and Siegried's Rhine Journey was the first bit of the Ring I ever heard after Ride of the Valkyries (in my case Detroit SO/Paray) so it holds a special place in my affections. I don't see any need to tack anything on to the end at all as it ends on a cadence in its original form just before the lead in to Act 1 proper ('Nun hör Hagen...') What I like especially about the Rhine Journey is the very clever tapestry of leitmotivs woven into the music. I was in the hall for this Prom and after all these years actually spotted one I'd not previously noticed.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Even worse the music in a trailer for the concert's repeat on the World Service which I heard during last night: it segues seamlessly from the openng bars of the Liszt into Wagner without a break (or fades)!

The people who make these trailers should be thrown into a dark dungeon, and the keys thrown away.

[Once Was 4]

Like many, I suspect, Dawn and Siegried's Rhine Journey was the first bit of the Ring I ever heard after Ride of the Valkyries (in my case Detroit SO/Paray) so it holds a special place in my affections. I don't see any need to tack anything on to the end at all as it ends on a cadence in its original form just before the lead in to Act 1 proper ('Nun hör Hagen...') What I like especially about the Rhine Journey is the very clever tapestry of leitmotivs woven into the music. I was in the hall for this Prom and after all these years actually spotted one I'd not previously noticed.

Me too - I first heard it as a boy on a 78 rpm record belonging to my mother and played by the Berlin Opera Orchestra conducted by one C.A. Bunte. I still have it somewhere but I think that it got broken. It really turned me on to Wagner (and her Puccini records turned me on to opera).

Incidentally, whilst listening to the offstage horn proudly proclaiming that horn call, spare a thought for the poor old 8th horn who is sustaining a low C with the timps (pedal G for horn in F) underneath. I have done that part a couple of times and found it just as pearly as playing a big tune.

[kernelbogey]

Bumping this up to point out that this concert is on BBC4 tomorrow (Sunday) night at 1900.

[Bert Coules]

It takes a really special talent to make the Tannhäuser overture that tedious. It's probably just me but I've never been able to engage with Barenboim's Wagner, and the slowness of the audience to respond to the first couple of Götterdämmerung chunks suggests that I'm not the only one. Either that or they didn't think much to the juxtaposition.

[EdgeleyRob]

the Liszt was ok, but does DB have to crash the party with the encore again? and just as in April 2015 could she not have picked something a bit more interesting than the Schubert Rondo in A AGAIN?

Just watched on telly,the encore was the best part of the concert,brought a tear to the eye.
You must have a heart of stone gedsmk

[Prommer]

Was the whole prog on?

[EdgeleyRob]

Was the whole prog on?

Yes.

[Pianorak]

I just watched the programme and am wondering if the Schubert Rondo is a piece the two of them used to play as children in Argentina. Perhaps a trip down memory lane?

[EdgeleyRob]

I just watched the programme and am wondering if the Schubert Rondo is a piece the two of them used to play as children in Argentina. Perhaps a trip down memory lane?

It had that feel about it,which is maybe why I found it so poignant.

[Beef Oven!]

I really enjoyed it. I think DB is a marvellous Wagner conductor. Highly emotional throughout, and a very palpable spiritual connection between conductor and orchestra.

[Lat-Literal]

I really enjoyed it. I think DB is a marvellous Wagner conductor. Highly emotional throughout, and a very palpable spiritual connection between conductor and orchestra.

Very much enjoyed this prom.

It had all the right components - the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra, Barenboim and Martha Argerich.

The sound was indeed glowing as The Guardian described.

It makes me uneasy to say so but I'm becoming less resistant to Wagner.

[Beef Oven!]

It makes me uneasy to say so but I'm becoming less resistant to Wagner.

[Bert Coules]

I really enjoyed it. I think DB is a marvellous Wagner conductor.

Fascinating isn't it, how reactions can differ. To me his Wagner always sounds totally dead: just going through the motions with no emotional involvement at all.

I didn't know the piano-duet encore piece and my reaction was that it went on a fair bit. Too long for an encore, certainly.

[Beef Oven!]

Fascinating isn't it, how reactions can differ.

Yes, that’s what I thought when I saw your earlier post