Prom 29: 6.08.16 National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Prom 29: 6.08.16 National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain

    19:30 Saturday 6 Aug 2016
    Royal Albert Hall

    Iris ter Schiphorst: Gravitational Waves (BBC co-commission: London premiere)
    Richard Strauss: Also sprach Zarathustra
    Gustav Holst: The Planets (incl. Colin Matthews's: Pluto, the Renewer)


    CBSO Youth Chorus
    National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain
    Edward Gardner, conductor

    Film directors have reached for these works by Strauss and Holst in their attempts to explain the human condition against the infinite background of space.
    The depiction of astrological characters in The Planets, from the cheeky game-play of Mercury to the shattering impact of Mars, could be made for the resonance of the Royal Albert Hall. The power of Strauss's Also sprach Zarathustra is no less cinematic.


    National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain in works by Iris ter Schiphorst, Strauss, Holst.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 09-08-16, 17:02.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    Likely to be a popular and successful concert, but I'm not so sure about Pluto being added to a work already absolutely complete.

    Oh, hang on, I've just written another movement: Eris (UB313). Please can this be tagged on too?

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Likely to be a popular and successful concert, but I'm not so sure about Pluto being added to a work already absolutely complete.

      Oh, hang on, I've just written another movement: Eris (UB313). Please can this be tagged on too?
      Earth is a planet

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        Earth is a planet
        Whereas Pluto is classified as a "dwarf planet", making the dwarf composition bearng its name quite apposite. Also, if Pluto is to be included, along with EA's Eris, the whaqt about Ceres, Haumea and Makemake?
        Last edited by Bryn; 30-07-16, 08:00. Reason: Addition.

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        • seabright
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          • Jan 2013
          • 625

          #5
          Why is the orchestra wearing masks? Some white and the others black. And as for all that swaying back and forth, well was it worth it, I ask? :)

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Pluto just doesn't work after the sounds of Neptune have drifted away. I just wish that Pluto had never been composed as it ruins a work already completed by its composer.

            Any live performance of Zarathustra has me feeling decidedly nervous for the poor trumpet player who has to hit that notoriously exposed top note.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • pastoralguy
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Any live performance of Zarathustra has me feeling decidedly nervous for the poor trumpet player who has to hit that notoriously exposed top note.
              There's a story that Fritz Reiner used to make principals in the Chicago Symphony Orchestra play difficult solos over and over until, eventually, they fluffed it. "See. You're not as good as you think you are", he would say. (Obviously, a real morale booster!) However, one day he made Adolphe Hersche play that solo over and over and over. Every single time, the legendary trumpet player was spot on. Reiner grew more and more angry until he threw his baton down and shouted at Hersche "How long until I make you break that solo?!"

              Hersche replied "Dr Reiner, you got until one o'clock!"
              Last edited by pastoralguy; 07-08-16, 17:41.

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              • Petrushka
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                There's a story that Fritzt Reiner used to make principals in the Chicago Symphony Orchestra play difficult solos over and over until, eventually, they fluffed it. "See. You're not as good as you think you are", he would say. (Obviously, a real morale booster!) However, one day he made Adolphe Hersche play that solo over and over and over. Every single time, the legendary trumpet player was spot on. Reiner grew more and more angry until he threw his baton down and shouted at Hersche "How long until I make you break that solo?!"

                Hersche replied "Dr Reiner, you got until one o'clock!"
                Hope you don't mind me making the slight correction that Adolph 'Bud' Herseth was the trumpet player in question. I saw him several times as the Chicago SO's principal trumpet. There's a humorous story about his audition for the position as well (might be a variation on the above story) but I can't recall it now.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • mercia
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8920

                  #9
                  being streamed live - are there many concerts getting this treatment ?

                  Edward Gardner conducts the National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain and the women of the City of Birmingham Youth Chorus in Strauss’ Also sprach Zarathustra and Holst’s The Planets. The programme opens with a new work by Iris ter Schiphorst.

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                  • pastoralguy
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    Hope you don't mind me making the slight correction that Adolph 'Bud' Herseth was the trumpet player in question. I saw him several times as the Chicago SO's principal trumpet. There's a humorous story about his audition for the position as well (might be a variation on the above story) but I can't recall it now.
                    Of course! Sorry, my memories not as great as it used to be.

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                    • LeMartinPecheur
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                      • Apr 2007
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      Hope you don't mind me making the slight correction that Adolph 'Bud' Herseth was the trumpet player in question.
                      I vividly recall an R3 broadcast of a performance of the Shoster 1st piano conc in which Herseth completely stole the show. Probably mid or late 1970s?
                      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                      • gradus
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        I saw them at Snape two nights ago and they were sensationally good with the first piece going down a storm, choreographed moves, masks and all. Never heard a better Planets.

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                        • BBMmk2
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          The Planets was being recorded, I think, for Chandos, as Ed was conducting, and Ralph was there too! Available in January
                          Don’t cry for me
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                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Sir Velo
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                            • Oct 2012
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gradus View Post
                            I saw them at Snape two nights ago and they were sensationally good
                            What else would you expect from the Chicago Symphony?

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                            • Anastasius
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                              • Mar 2015
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                              #15
                              So few comments about these youngsters? I really enjoyed all three pieces, thought the orchestra were terrific and surprisingly for me, really enjoyed the Gravitational Waves. Would like to have been there.
                              Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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